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Reached People Group of the Week - Koreans of South Korea

2020.11.23 15:49 partypastor Reached People Group of the Week - Koreans of South Korea

Its that time of year again, when we are forced to sit at a table and tell our families things we are thankful for. But what I am thankful for is groups that became reached after thousands of years of being unreached. Today we are doing a rather obvious one, the Koreans. I'm posting this one because South Korea sends the second highest number of missionaries around the world, how awesome is that?? And up until around 1800 they never had access to the Gospel.
How were they reached?
Catholicism was first introduced during the late Joseon Dynasty period by Confucian scholars who encountered it in China. In 1603, Yi Gwang-jeong, Korean diplomat, returned from Beijing carrying several theological books written by Matteo Ricci, an Italian Jesuit missionary to China. He began disseminating the information in the books, and the first seeds of Christianity were sown. In 1758, King Yeongjo of Joseon officially outlawed Catholicism as an "evil practice." Catholicism was reintroduced in 1785 by Yi Seung-hun and since then French and Chinese Catholic priests were invited by the Korean Christians.
Joseon royalty saw the new religion as a subversive influence and persecuted its earliest followers in Korea, culminating in the Catholic Persecution of 1866, in which 8,000 Catholics across the country were killed, including nine French missionary priests. The opening of Korea to the outside world in the late nineteenth century brought religious toleration for the remaining Catholics and also introduced Protestantism via American missionaries, beginning in 1884. The first Protestant church in Korea was established by Seo Sang-ryun and the first Protestant missionary to enter Korea was Horace Newton Allen, both events occurring in 1884. Horace Allen was a North Presbyterian missionary who became an American diplomat. He served in Korea until 1905, by which time he had been joined by many others.
The growth of both denominations was gradual before 1945. In that year, approximately 2% of the population was Christian. Rapid growth ensued after the war, when Korea was freed from Japanese occupation by the Allies: by 1991, 18.4% of the population (8.0 million) was Protestant, and 6.7% (2.5 million) was Catholic. Wikipedia
And then this
The Christian missionaries who arrived in the 1800s and following have contributed much to the health, education, and general well-being of the South Koreans. Christians were vocal in their support of the liberation of the Korean peninsula from imperialist Japan. The establishment of schools, hospitals, orphanages, and universities by the Christians paved the way for the modernization of South Korea. Joshua Project
It is estimated that 30% of Koreans in South Korean are Christian!!
What are they like?
Typical qualification that all people groups can't be summed up in small paragraphs and this is an over generalization.
South Korea boasts Asia's third largest economy. Exports of electronics, automobiles, and machinery allow the country to afford many conveniences of the modern world. High rates of cable and/or satellite television usage and high-speed internet connectivity make South Korean a member of the cutting edge technology users of the world. The country is also credited with pioneering the television via mobile devices and internet revolution.
Distinct regional differences in culture and politics exist among the South Koreans. The most important regional difference is between the Gyeongsang region in the southeast and the Jeolla region in the southwest. The two regions maintain a rivalry that reaches back to the fourth century AD. The rivalry originated from a struggle for control of the peninsula. Interregional marriages are rare and travel between the regions in sparce despite a major highway connecting the regions since 1984. Constructed for the specific reason of increasing interregional travel, the highway has not served to improve visitation or commerce between the regions.
The political power elite have come largely from the Gyeongsang region and, consequently, this region has benefitted most from government development assistance. In contrast, the Jeolla region has remained comparatively rural and undeveloped.
Regional stereotypes, like regional dialects, have been breaking down under the influence of centralized education, nationwide media, and several decades of population movement since the Korean War. Stereotypes remain important in the eyes of many South Koreans however. Each region has its own stereotypical beliefs about the other regions. These beliefs may or may not be based in truth and accuracy. Joshua Project
History Lesson
The Korean Peninsula was inhabited as early as the Lower Paleolithic period. The history of Korea begins with the founding of Joseon (also known as "Gojoseon", or Old Joseon, to differentiate it with the 14th century dynasty) in 2333 BCE by Dangun, according to Korea's foundation mythology. Gojoseon was noted in Chinese records in the early 7th century. Gojoseon expanded until it controlled the northern Korean Peninsula and parts of Manchuria. Gija Joseon was purportedly founded in the 12th century BCE, but its existence and role have been controversial in the modern era. In 108 BCE, the Han dynasty defeated Wiman Joseon and installed four commanderies in the northern Korean peninsula. Three of the commanderies fell or retreated westward within a few decades. As Lelang commandery was destroyed and rebuilt around this time, the place gradually moved toward Liaodong. Thus, its force was diminished and it only served as a trade center until it was conquered by Goguryeo in 313. Wikipedia
What do they believe?
The dominant religions of South Korea are Christianity and Buddhism despite the fact that most of the population express no particular affiliation with a religion. South Korea has the third largest number of professing Christians of all the East Asian and Southeast Asian countries.
There is a great deal of ambiguity in the practice and adherence to the belief systems that exist in South Korea. Many people see religion as an inherited trait as much or more so than a faith. Also, many South Koreans practice elements of several belief systems. Christianity is the only faith that maintains distinct lines between those who belong to the belief system. For the other religions, it can be difficult if not impossible to know who practices what.
The Korean Church has had amazing growth in numbers and influence. It was founded on sound indigenous principles, blessed with a succession of revivals, refined by persecution and is now one of the foremost in the world for missions vision. Its presence is highly visible; every level of society has been impacted and growth has been remarkable. Of the 11 largest mega-congregations in the world, 10 are in the one city of Seoul. Seoul also hosts the largest Pentecostal, Presbyterian and Methodist congregations in the world and the second-largest Baptist. With over 15,000 missionaries, the Korean Church sends the second-highest number of cross-cultural workers to other parts of the world. Joshua Project
How can we pray for them?
Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. (Romans 10:1)
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Here are the previous weeks threads on the UPG of the Week for Reformed
People Group Country Date Posted Beliefs
Korean (Reached People Group) South Korea 11/23/2020 Christian
Qashqa'i Iran 11/16/2020 Islam
Saaroa Taiwan 11/02/2020 Animism (?)
Urdu Ireland 10/26/2020 Islam
Wolof Senegal 10/19/2020 Islam
Turkish Cypriot Cyprus 10/12/2020 Islam
Awjilah Libya 10/05/2020 Islam
Manihar India 09/28/2020 Islam
Tianba China 09/21/2020 Animism
Arab Qatar 09/14/2020 Islam
Turkmen Turkmenistan 08/31/2020 Islam
Lyuli Uzbekistan 08/24/2020 Islam
Kyrgyz Kyrgyzstan 08/17/2020 Islam*
Yakut Russia 08/10/2020 Animism*
Northern Katang Laos 08/03/2020 Animism
Uyghur Kazakhstan 07/27/2020 Islam
Syrian (Levant Arabs) Syria 07/20/2020 Islam
Teda Chad 07/06/2020 Islam
Kotokoli Togo 06/28/2020 Islam
Hobyot Oman 06/22/2020 Islam
Moor Sri Lanka 06/15/2020 Islam
Shaikh Bangladesh 06/08/2020 Islam
Khalka Mongols Mongolia 06/01/2020 Animism
Comorian France 05/18/2020 Islam
Bedouin Jordan 05/11/2020 Islam
Muslim Thai Thailand 05/04/2020 Islam
Nubian Uganda 04/27/2020 Islam
Kraol Cambodia 04/20/2020 Animism
Tay Vietnam 04/13/2020 Animism
Yoruk Turkey 04/06/2020 Islam
Xiaoliangshn Nosu China 03/30/2020 Animism
Jat (Muslim) Pakistan 03/23/2020 Islam
Beja Bedawi Egypt 03/16/2020 Islam
Tunisian Arabs Tunisia 03/09/2020 Islam
Yemeni Arab Yemen 03/02/2020 Islam
Bosniak Croatia 02/24/2020 Islam
Azerbaijani Georgia 02/17/2020 Islam
Zaza-Dimli Turkey 02/10/2020 Islam
Huichol Mexico 02/03/2020 Animism
Kampuchea Krom Cambodia 01/27/2020 Buddhism
Lao Krang Thailand 01/20/2020 Buddhism
Gilaki Iran 01/13/2020 Islam
Uyghurs China 01/01/2020 Islam
Israeli Jews Israel 12/18/2019 Judaism
Drukpa Bhutan 12/11/2019 Buddhism
Malay Malaysia 12/04/2019 Islam
Lisu (Reached People Group) China 11/27/2019 Christian
Dhobi India 11/20/2019 Hinduism
Burmese Myanmar 11/13/2019 Buddhism
Minyak Tibetans China 11/06/2019 Buddhism
Yazidi Iraq 10/30/2019 Animism*
Turks Turkey 10/23/2019 Islam
Kurds Syria 10/16/2019 Islam
Kalmyks Russia 10/09/2019 Buddhism
Luli Tajikistan 10/02/2019 Islam
Japanese Japan 09/25/2019 Shintoism
Urak Lawoi Thailand 09/18/2019 Animism
Kim Mun Vietnam 09/11/2019 Animism
Tai Lue Laos 09/04/2019 Bhuddism
Sundanese Indonesia 08/28/2019 Islam
Central Atlas Berbers Morocco 08/21/2019 Islam
Fulani Nigeria 08/14/2019 Islam
Sonar India 08/07/2019 Hinduism
Pattani Malay Thailand 08/02/2019 Islam
Thai Thailand 07/26/2019 Buddhism
Baloch Pakistan 07/19/2019 Islam
Alawite Syria 07/12/2019 Islam*
Huasa Cote d'Ivoire 06/28/2019 Islam
Chhetri Nepal 06/21/2019 Hinduism
Beja Sudan 06/14/2019 Islam
Yinou China 06/07/2019 Animism
Kazakh Kazakhstan 05/31/2019 Islam
Hui China 05/24/2019 Islam
Masalit Sudan 05/17/2019 Islam
As always, if you have experience in this country or with this people group, feel free to comment or PM me and I will happily edit it so that we can better pray for these peoples!
Here is a list of definitions in case you wonder what exactly I mean by words like "Unreached"
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2020.11.23 11:43 pagesjaunes I can't seem to install monogame's MGCB Editor via command line

So I'm trying to follow the monogame set up.
Visual studio works fine, but I can't get the MGCB Editor to work. Whether I'm using the command line from vs2019 or the start menu I get :
c:\users\*****>dotnet tool install --global dotnet-mgcb-editor error NU1101: dotnet-mgcb-editor was not found. no package assiociated with this ID exist within the following source: microsoft visual studio offline packages 
(wording might not be exact, my command line is in french)
I have a working internet connection.
I reinstalled .net 5.0 and .net core 3.1 both sdk and runtime.
"dotnet nuget --version" is up to date 5.8.0.6930
"dotnet tool search monogame" Does detect the package ID: dotnet-mgcb-editor ver: 3.8.0.1641
"dotnet tool install" does work since omitting the ID prompt me to specify it.
Specifying the desired version does nothing (same error)
dotnet tool install --global dotnet-mgcb-editor --version 3.8.0.1641 
 
I'm at a loss any idea would be appreciated.
 
I'm trying to repost it here as monogame deleted my post twice for some reason ?
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2020.11.22 19:34 Jac0b777 An In-Depth Examination of the Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship

"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties."
– John Milton, Areopagitica
Free speech, or the ability to freely speak your mind (especially in a public venue), has had a tumultuous ride throughout humanity’s history. Though there have been strong movements for the freedom of expression dating back to ancient Greece and Rome, in reality it was still very easy to get executed when speaking truth to power, or when going against the cultural or religious grain at the time (Socrates’ death sentence for “subversion of the youth” and impiety [in his case disbelief in the Gods of the state] being one well known example).
From being burned at the stake, excommunicated, imprisoned, fined or even sent to a labor camp, many of the people that comprised our societies throughout history have not been too keen on hearing what other people thought or believed. Though freedom of speech was often idealized in principle, that principle could be (and often was) very quickly swept aside when it contradicted what was commonly seen as correct, true or morally right in terms of the values, beliefs, scientific paradigms and religious perceptions of the time.
With the advent of the printing press, the ability to speak your mind freely skyrocketed, but so too did censorship, imposed primarily by the Church due to fears of heresy. In fact, the origins of most copyright law originate in the Catholic Church and a variety of governments’ attempt to control the flow of information through printing.
The ability to share and disseminate “illegal” information was now easier than before, but the penalties were still great and anonymity in sharing difficult. However, throughout the 20th century the extent and importance of free speech increased greatly – and ultimately came to a head with the advent and incredible spread of the Internet.
Now the information era had come – and with it the seeming impossibility to stop a torrent of information, views and perspectives being shared everywhere. Ideas that would have surely had you killed hundreds of years ago were now commonplace and easily accessible to all. Or so it seemed.
The Internet truly looked like one of those few rare inventions that could positively influence the world – giving free access to information for all, as well as uniting people from distant lands in the knowledge that they are not really as different as they may have previously thought. But as in many such cases, the human desire to control started rearing its ugly head.
Though the amount of misinformation can be rampant online, as well as the hate and fear that can circulate and find common-ground with others, creating echo-chambers of destructive thought, one wonders whether the true danger lies in allowing such information to spread unmitigated or whether the far greater threat comes from a reckless (and usually unsuccessful) desire to stomp it out of existence.

Censorship or Communication – Who or What Shall Be the Arbiter of Truth?

“All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently, the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Mrs. Warren's Profession
There has been much debate about the harmful nature of spreading misinformation, as well as promoting fear and hate based ideologies, due to their potential corrupting influences on human minds and in turn, whole societies. This goes as far back to the ideas of Socrates, where in his ideal Republic certain ideas, imagery, poems and literature would be banned from the public arena, censored out of existence (described primarily in books 2 & 3), in order to promote a society that would strive towards what is “right”.
Of course the first great problem here is the question of what indeed is right, correct and positive for the flourishing of a healthy society. Who decides on what should be censored and indeed based on what do they decide?
What is seen as morally correct has changed greatly throughout history and still differs from culture to culture – where, for example, homosexuality has been and still is believed to be a great sin in many areas of the planet (and has throughout many eras of human history), nowadays it is viewed in a far more accepting manner, especially in Western society. A great divergence from certain ancient cultures to modern times can be seen in something such as pederasty, which was seen as normal, and even encouraged, in certain eras of ancient Greece and Rome. Now similar practices are viewed as mostly sick and illegal due to minors being seen as unable to meaningfully consent to sexual activity with adults.
Mainstream scientific views have also been wrong many times throughout our times and have only gradually updated themselves through new discoveries that slowly seeped into the academic and public arena. Thus nowadays, despite the discoveries in quantum mechanics that describe the world as a relation between the observer and the observed, as well as imply a non-deterministic reality, the old Newtonian world-view of pure objectivity and determinism is still very much rooted in most of society’s thinking. There are many more such examples that can be given throughout history. Let me simply mention that until 1803, when their reality was finally conceded, meteorites were seen as a myth and superstition. “Stones cannot fall from the sky” – so all reports of such phenomena were viewed as delusions. In 1772 the prestigious French Academy of Science appointed a committee to investigate such claims of “falling rocks” and concluded that they could not be real. Its conclusions were so convincing that museums all over Western Europe threw away their meteorite specimens.
If morality, beliefs and science are insufficient in creating a template for what should be discussed and what should be censored away, then what should that template even be? Perhaps, just perhaps the censorship of any ideas may not be the best solution after all? Perhaps all ideas should remain on the table, free to be debated at will, while more and better information should be given instead of that which is blatantly false and divisive to be forcibly removed from the public's awareness.

Can One Stomp Out Dissent?

“To forbid us anything is to make us have a mind for it.”
― Michel de Montaigne, Montaigne: Essays
Conversely, does censorship even work in actually uprooting the ideas and beliefs of individuals and groups – or does it merely drive these ideas underground, into greater echo-chambers where further radicalization can occur?
An idea or belief can only survive as long as it is seen as logically correct, or if the emotions behind it are so strong as to keep it afloat (usually it is a bit of both, though feelings do seem to come over facts in modern discourse – sadly we are all to blame in this to some degree, even though many may claim otherwise, not realizing their own blind-spots).
Thus the only way to neutralize it is to dissolve the emotion behind it and/or refute its logical counter-part. Censorship, of course, does neither of the above. In fact, if an idea is censored and not refuted (especially when many have already taken it into their consciousness) and the emotional wounds behind it are not healed (if it is based on fear or anger), it is extremely likely to continue spreading in some way. Not only that, the desire for its believers to spread it will become far greater, and in their minds more justified, due to its censorship.
The mere move towards censoring an idea is something that can often make it more popular, in what can be described as the phenomenon of psychological reactance. For example ― in 2003, Barbra Streisand sued photographer Kenneth Adelman for taking a photograph of her Malibu mansion, citing violation of privacy as a reason. The photograph of her estate, which had been downloaded a mere few times from Adelman’s website before that, became so popular as the result of the well-publicized lawsuit that it was downloaded near half-a-million times in the following month. The social phenomenon of information spreading even more widely after its attempted censorship has thus been dubbed The Streisand Effect.
But of course, this phenomenon is nothing new and can be seen throughout history.
Did the vast persecution of Christians since Roman times and a desire to stop their religious expression stop Christianity as a whole? Did the censorship of literature related to male homosexuality and birth control in the 19th century (especially in Britain) cause “gayness” to die off, or the movement for its inclusion in society to cease? Did the censoring of such works as Ulysses, by James Joyce, Lady Chatterley’s Lover, by DH Lawrence, and Howl, by Allen Ginsberg, remove these books out of existence or did they perchance become bestsellers?
Censorship, in terms of its desire to control is similar to war – it comes with a desire to stomp out the opposition in the hopes that it can and will allow itself to be eliminated by force. But if the war on terror and the one on drugs have given such poor results, how on Earth can a war on specific forms of information ever hope to be a success (putting aside the question whether success in such a “war” should even be hoped for)? Information is much like water, or air, but even subtler than that. It is carried through our consciousness, our minds, and without controlling the inner world and will of all, the flow of ideas can never be truly ceased.
Perhaps the greatest thing that can be done, especially in the case of fear and hate based ideologies, is the promotion of emotional healing and alternative arguments that may give people a different perspective and allow them to step into “a new story”, as one of my favourite social philosophers, Charles Eisenstein, would say.

The Parallels Between Meditation and Free Speech

“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…”
― Hermes Trismegistus
As someone that has practiced meditation for many years now, I cannot help but see some very significant parallels between the suppression of thoughts, ideas (including corresponding emotions) on the level of the individual – and the suppression of those very same aspects on the societal and global scale.
In my experience, whenever something is suppressed in the human mind, pushed into the subconscious, it desires to rise up again into consciousness, where it will be acknowledged and integrated back into the psyche. Through meditative practice, emotions and thoughts are allowed to arise, be felt, observed and thus integrated. It is awareness that is the great healer, the great catalyst for change – and by relegating pain back to the unconscious, by suppressing it, as well as our desires and needs, our joys and fears, trials and tribulations, we will ensure that mental health, inner peace and happiness will always be out of reach.
Throughout my life I have noticed that what applies to the individual very often also applies to the collective. For what else is the collective than a group of individuals, a collective consciousness, a hive-mind that in many ways can be said to be an organism in and of itself?
If collectively, the thoughts, emotions and perspectives of individuals are suppressed and denied, if their ideas are censored out of existence, if they are not allowed to speak freely, the consequences to the health of the society that these individuals comprise will become nothing short of disastrous.
If they are on the other hand allowed to come into the light of awareness of the collective organism of humanity, healing and integration can begin, most often through healthy discourse and debate. Even the most wretched and hateful belief-systems, even the ideas that seem to fly in the face of all logic and reason (though many times, when facing some of these ideas, we see that perhaps our own logic and reason needs an update as well) can and must be brought to the attention of mass consciousness, in order for integration and healing (in the case of great fear and hate) to occur.
It is futile to believe that ideologies based on a lack of sensibility and empathy will simply disappear if we ignore them. This is mirrored in the belief that many people still have, where their own inner shadow or the aspects of themselves they have deemed unfitting or unworthy will simply vanish into thin air if they are never acknowledged. This will simply not occur, for it is impossible for healing to happen without awareness, it is impossible for change to happen without the light of consciousness, it is impossible for understanding to come without acknowledgment.
Through repression and suppression of people’s thoughts, opinions and emotions those very aspects begin to come up in other areas of individual and collective life – for what is suppressed will eventually come up into consciousness, whether through a verbalized opinion (perhaps the least problematic of all), an action, or ultimately on the most extreme collective scale – through war.
Thus the only way forward is to turn on the light and let the darkness be dissolved in its presence. As within, so without, as above so below – and if I might add, as in the individual, so in the collective.

The Discourse Deciders of the Information Age

“Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.”
― Benjamin Franklin
It is now that the entirety of online discourse has been guided towards and centralized in a few mega-platforms, owned by enormous corporations and spear-headed by out of touch and often morally destitute billionaires. Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit (some of these owned by the same company) are now the norm for searching, communicating, sharing, discussing and seeking out entertainment on the Web. On a myriad of devices, these websites are the default choice for many activities, often so integrated that they cannot even be removed (for example - on many new smartphones, various Google apps, as well as Facebook cannot be uninstalled), thus guiding especially new, and technically less savvy, users to being more inclined to use them.
Because everyone now uses these platforms, it is more likely that companies, political parties, or even individuals trying to speak their mind, will use them as well. Whether because of a desire to spread influence, sell a product or merely speak their mind, being on these platforms means more people will hear your voice and thus your reach will be far greater than elsewhere. Not to mention that most of these sites, through the immense profits they have accrued (mainly of course through the participation of the masses), have the ability to manage vast amounts of data and users, through expensive physical infrastructure and top software engineers, thus making their monopoly in the online world even fiercer. The idea that one can simply “create their own YouTube” is obviously an illusion, since the upkeep costs would be far beyond most people’s (or even companies’) reach.
These vast corporations and their respective platform hold an immense monopoly on Internet discourse – and through the power they hold, they have a massive say in what ideas, beliefs and perspectives, as well as which individuals discussing them are allowed in online discourse. And since online discourse now comprises the main aspect of mass human discussion and debate in general, these platforms have the power to shape and mold the minds of people, rivaled in their power perhaps only by television at the height of its influence.

Solutions to Combat Silencing

“Proclaim the truth and do not be silent through fear.”
― St. Catherine of Siena
So what should be done? I suggest the greatest antidote to censorship is speaking one’s mind fully and without fear. Only by being afraid of speaking up, only through fear of being “canceled” or viciously verbally assaulted (real possibilities, but still far lesser repercussions than those people faced in the past), can ideas and perspectives be silenced and allowed to fester in the individual and global subconscious.
If possible, try to be a good example when you do speak your mind. Educate yourself on the topics you are discussing, listen to other people and consider their opinions and perspectives, allow yourself to be aware of your emotional triggers, wounds and how they influence your thinking and reasoning.
If at all possible, consider engaging in a meditation practice – that alone will give you far greater clarity of mind, the ability to transcend emotional wounds that prevent insightful and unimpeded reasoning (including listening to others with an open-mind), as well as that crucial element that we should all be striving for in order to make our society better – compassion. In a way, clear and open communication naturally gives rise to compassion (and ultimately is a form of compassion), as you allow yourself to truly hear and know the other person’s perspective, thereby updating and clarifying your own.
It is clear, open communication and debate that we should all be striving for in order to make this society better, in order to dispel misinformation and hate, as well as to foster empathy for one another and our distinct perspectives that make life the cornucopia of diversity and uniqueness that it is.
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The Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship
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2020.11.22 19:21 Jac0b777 An In-Depth Examination of the Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship

"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties."
– John Milton, Areopagitica
Free speech, or the ability to freely speak your mind (especially in a public venue), has had a tumultuous ride throughout humanity’s history. Though there have been strong movements for the freedom of expression dating back to ancient Greece and Rome, in reality it was still very easy to get executed when speaking truth to power, or when going against the cultural or religious grain at the time (Socrates’ death sentence for “subversion of the youth” and impiety [in his case disbelief in the Gods of the state] being one well known example).
From being burned at the stake, excommunicated, imprisoned, fined or even sent to a labor camp, many of the people that comprised our societies throughout history have not been too keen on hearing what other people thought or believed. Though freedom of speech was often idealized in principle, that principle could be (and often was) very quickly swept aside when it contradicted what was commonly seen as correct, true or morally right in terms of the values, beliefs, scientific paradigms and religious perceptions of the time.
With the advent of the printing press, the ability to speak your mind freely skyrocketed, but so too did censorship, imposed primarily by the Church due to fears of heresy. In fact, the origins of most copyright law originate in the Catholic Church and a variety of governments’ attempt to control the flow of information through printing.
The ability to share and disseminate “illegal” information was now easier than before, but the penalties were still great and anonymity in sharing difficult. However, throughout the 20th century the extent and importance of free speech increased greatly – and ultimately came to a head with the advent and incredible spread of the Internet.
Now the information era had come – and with it the seeming impossibility to stop a torrent of information, views and perspectives being shared everywhere. Ideas that would have surely had you killed hundreds of years ago were now commonplace and easily accessible to all. Or so it seemed.
The Internet truly looked like one of those few rare inventions that could positively influence the world – giving free access to information for all, as well as uniting people from distant lands in the knowledge that they are not really as different as they may have previously thought. But as in many such cases, the human desire to control started rearing its ugly head.
Though the amount of misinformation can be rampant online, as well as the hate and fear that can circulate and find common-ground with others, creating echo-chambers of destructive thought, one wonders whether the true danger lies in allowing such information to spread unmitigated or whether the far greater threat comes from a reckless (and usually unsuccessful) desire to stomp it out of existence.

Censorship or Communication – Who or What Shall Be the Arbiter of Truth?

“All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently, the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Mrs. Warren's Profession
There has been much debate about the harmful nature of spreading misinformation, as well as promoting fear and hate based ideologies, due to their potential corrupting influences on human minds and in turn, whole societies. This goes as far back to the ideas of Socrates, where in his ideal Republic certain ideas, imagery, poems and literature would be banned from the public arena, censored out of existence (described primarily in books 2 & 3), in order to promote a society that would strive towards what is “right”.
Of course the first great problem here is the question of what indeed is right, correct and positive for the flourishing of a healthy society. Who decides on what should be censored and indeed based on what do they decide?
What is seen as morally correct has changed greatly throughout history and still differs from culture to culture – where, for example, homosexuality has been and still is believed to be a great sin in many areas of the planet (and has throughout many eras of human history), nowadays it is viewed in a far more accepting manner, especially in Western society. A great divergence from certain ancient cultures to modern times can be seen in something such as pederasty, which was seen as normal, and even encouraged, in certain eras of ancient Greece and Rome. Now similar practices are viewed as mostly sick and illegal due to minors being seen as unable to meaningfully consent to sexual activity with adults.
Mainstream scientific views have also been wrong many times throughout our times and have only gradually updated themselves through new discoveries that slowly seeped into the academic and public arena. Thus nowadays, despite the discoveries in quantum mechanics that describe the world as a relation between the observer and the observed, as well as imply a non-deterministic reality, the old Newtonian world-view of pure objectivity and determinism is still very much rooted in most of society’s thinking. There are many more such examples that can be given throughout history. Let me simply mention that until 1803, when their reality was finally conceded, meteorites were seen as a myth and superstition. “Stones cannot fall from the sky” – so all reports of such phenomena were viewed as delusions. In 1772 the prestigious French Academy of Science appointed a committee to investigate such claims of “falling rocks” and concluded that they could not be real. Its conclusions were so convincing that museums all over Western Europe threw away their meteorite specimens.
If morality, beliefs and science are insufficient in creating a template for what should be discussed and what should be censored away, then what should that template even be? Perhaps, just perhaps the censorship of any ideas may not be the best solution after all? Perhaps all ideas should remain on the table, free to be debated at will, while more and better information should be given instead of that which is blatantly false and divisive to be forcibly removed from the public's awareness.

Can One Stomp Out Dissent?

“To forbid us anything is to make us have a mind for it.”
― Michel de Montaigne, Montaigne: Essays
Conversely, does censorship even work in actually uprooting the ideas and beliefs of individuals and groups – or does it merely drive these ideas underground, into greater echo-chambers where further radicalization can occur?
An idea or belief can only survive as long as it is seen as logically correct, or if the emotions behind it are so strong as to keep it afloat (usually it is a bit of both, though feelings do seem to come over facts in modern discourse – sadly we are all to blame in this to some degree, even though many may claim otherwise, not realizing their own blind-spots).
Thus the only way to neutralize it is to dissolve the emotion behind it and/or refute its logical counter-part. Censorship, of course, does neither of the above. In fact, if an idea is censored and not refuted (especially when many have already taken it into their consciousness) and the emotional wounds behind it are not healed (if it is based on fear or anger), it is extremely likely to continue spreading in some way. Not only that, the desire for its believers to spread it will become far greater, and in their minds more justified, due to its censorship.
The mere move towards censoring an idea is something that can often make it more popular, in what can be described as the phenomenon of psychological reactance. For example ― in 2003, Barbra Streisand sued photographer Kenneth Adelman for taking a photograph of her Malibu mansion, citing violation of privacy as a reason. The photograph of her estate, which had been downloaded a mere few times from Adelman’s website before that, became so popular as the result of the well-publicized lawsuit that it was downloaded near half-a-million times in the following month. The social phenomenon of information spreading even more widely after its attempted censorship has thus been dubbed The Streisand Effect.
But of course, this phenomenon is nothing new and can be seen throughout history.
Did the vast persecution of Christians since Roman times and a desire to stop their religious expression stop Christianity as a whole? Did the censorship of literature related to male homosexuality and birth control in the 19th century (especially in Britain) cause “gayness” to die off, or the movement for its inclusion in society to cease? Did the censoring of such works as Ulysses, by James Joyce, Lady Chatterley’s Lover, by DH Lawrence, and Howl, by Allen Ginsberg, remove these books out of existence or did they perchance become bestsellers?
Censorship, in terms of its desire to control is similar to war – it comes with a desire to stomp out the opposition in the hopes that it can and will allow itself to be eliminated by force. But if the war on terror and the one on drugs have given such poor results, how on Earth can a war on specific forms of information ever hope to be a success (putting aside the question whether success in such a “war” should even be hoped for)? Information is much like water, or air, but even subtler than that. It is carried through our consciousness, our minds, and without controlling the inner world and will of all, the flow of ideas can never be truly ceased.
Perhaps the greatest thing that can be done, especially in the case of fear and hate based ideologies, is the promotion of emotional healing and alternative arguments that may give people a different perspective and allow them to step into “a new story”, as one of my favourite social philosophers, Charles Eisenstein, would say.

The Parallels Between Meditation and Free Speech

“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…”
― Hermes Trismegistus
As someone that has practiced meditation for many years now, I cannot help but see some very significant parallels between the suppression of thoughts, ideas (including corresponding emotions) on the level of the individual – and the suppression of those very same aspects on the societal and global scale.
In my experience, whenever something is suppressed in the human mind, pushed into the subconscious, it desires to rise up again into consciousness, where it will be acknowledged and integrated back into the psyche. Through meditative practice, emotions and thoughts are allowed to arise, be felt, observed and thus integrated. It is awareness that is the great healer, the great catalyst for change – and by relegating pain back to the unconscious, by suppressing it, as well as our desires and needs, our joys and fears, trials and tribulations, we will ensure that mental health, inner peace and happiness will always be out of reach.
Throughout my life I have noticed that what applies to the individual very often also applies to the collective. For what else is the collective than a group of individuals, a collective consciousness, a hive-mind that in many ways can be said to be an organism in and of itself?
If collectively, the thoughts, emotions and perspectives of individuals are suppressed and denied, if their ideas are censored out of existence, if they are not allowed to speak freely, the consequences to the health of the society that these individuals comprise will become nothing short of disastrous.
If they are on the other hand allowed to come into the light of awareness of the collective organism of humanity, healing and integration can begin, most often through healthy discourse and debate. Even the most wretched and hateful belief-systems, even the ideas that seem to fly in the face of all logic and reason (though many times, when facing some of these ideas, we see that perhaps our own logic and reason needs an update as well) can and must be brought to the attention of mass consciousness, in order for integration and healing (in the case of great fear and hate) to occur.
It is futile to believe that ideologies based on a lack of sensibility and empathy will simply disappear if we ignore them. This is mirrored in the belief that many people still have, where their own inner shadow or the aspects of themselves they have deemed unfitting or unworthy will simply vanish into thin air if they are never acknowledged. This will simply not occur, for it is impossible for healing to happen without awareness, it is impossible for change to happen without the light of consciousness, it is impossible for understanding to come without acknowledgment.
Through repression and suppression of people’s thoughts, opinions and emotions those very aspects begin to come up in other areas of individual and collective life – for what is suppressed will eventually come up into consciousness, whether through a verbalized opinion (perhaps the least problematic of all), an action, or ultimately on the most extreme collective scale – through war.
Thus the only way forward is to turn on the light and let the darkness be dissolved in its presence. As within, so without, as above so below – and if I might add, as in the individual, so in the collective.

The Discourse Deciders of the Information Age

“Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.”
― Benjamin Franklin
It is now that the entirety of online discourse has been guided towards and centralized in a few mega-platforms, owned by enormous corporations and spear-headed by out of touch and often morally destitute billionaires. Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit (some of these owned by the same company) are now the norm for searching, communicating, sharing, discussing and seeking out entertainment on the Web. On a myriad of devices, these websites are the default choice for many activities, often so integrated that they cannot even be removed (for example - on many new smartphones, various Google apps, as well as Facebook cannot be uninstalled), thus guiding especially new, and technically less savvy, users to being more inclined to use them.
Because everyone now uses these platforms, it is more likely that companies, political parties, or even individuals trying to speak their mind, will use them as well. Whether because of a desire to spread influence, sell a product or merely speak their mind, being on these platforms means more people will hear your voice and thus your reach will be far greater than elsewhere. Not to mention that most of these sites, through the immense profits they have accrued (mainly of course through the participation of the masses), have the ability to manage vast amounts of data and users, through expensive physical infrastructure and top software engineers, thus making their monopoly in the online world even fiercer. The idea that one can simply “create their own YouTube” is obviously an illusion, since the upkeep costs would be far beyond most people’s (or even companies’) reach.
These vast corporations and their respective platform hold an immense monopoly on Internet discourse – and through the power they hold, they have a massive say in what ideas, beliefs and perspectives, as well as which individuals discussing them are allowed in online discourse. And since online discourse now comprises the main aspect of mass human discussion and debate in general, these platforms have the power to shape and mold the minds of people, rivaled in their power perhaps only by television at the height of its influence.

Solutions to Combat Silencing

“Proclaim the truth and do not be silent through fear.”
― St. Catherine of Siena
So what should be done? I suggest the greatest antidote to censorship is speaking one’s mind fully and without fear. Only by being afraid of speaking up, only through fear of being “canceled” or viciously verbally assaulted (real possibilities, but still far lesser repercussions than those people faced in the past), can ideas and perspectives be silenced and allowed to fester in the individual and global subconscious.
If possible, try to be a good example when you do speak your mind. Educate yourself on the topics you are discussing, listen to other people and consider their opinions and perspectives, allow yourself to be aware of your emotional triggers, wounds and how they influence your thinking and reasoning.
If at all possible, consider engaging in a meditation practice – that alone will give you far greater clarity of mind, the ability to transcend emotional wounds that prevent insightful and unimpeded reasoning (including listening to others with an open-mind), as well as that crucial element that we should all be striving for in order to make our society better – compassion. In a way, clear and open communication naturally gives rise to compassion (and ultimately is a form of compassion), as you allow yourself to truly hear and know the other person’s perspective, thereby updating and clarifying your own.
It is clear, open communication and debate that we should all be striving for in order to make this society better, in order to dispel misinformation and hate, as well as to foster empathy for one another and our distinct perspectives that make life the cornucopia of diversity and uniqueness that it is.
This has also been posted here:
The Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship
My site for the curious:
www.embraceyourexperience.com
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2020.11.22 19:16 Jac0b777 An In-Depth Examination of the Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship

"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties."
– John Milton, Areopagitica
Free speech, or the ability to freely speak your mind (especially in a public venue), has had a tumultuous ride throughout humanity’s history. Though there have been strong movements for the freedom of expression dating back to ancient Greece and Rome, in reality it was still very easy to get executed when speaking truth to power, or when going against the cultural or religious grain at the time (Socrates’ death sentence for “subversion of the youth” and impiety [in his case disbelief in the Gods of the state] being one well known example).
From being burned at the stake, excommunicated, imprisoned, fined or even sent to a labor camp, many of the people that comprised our societies throughout history have not been too keen on hearing what other people thought or believed. Though freedom of speech was often idealized in principle, that principle could be (and often was) very quickly swept aside when it contradicted what was commonly seen as correct, true or morally right in terms of the values, beliefs, scientific paradigms and religious perceptions of the time.
With the advent of the printing press, the ability to speak your mind freely skyrocketed, but so too did censorship, imposed primarily by the Church due to fears of heresy. In fact, the origins of most copyright law originate in the Catholic Church and a variety of governments’ attempt to control the flow of information through printing.
The ability to share and disseminate “illegal” information was now easier than before, but the penalties were still great and anonymity in sharing difficult. However, throughout the 20th century the extent and importance of free speech increased greatly – and ultimately came to a head with the advent and incredible spread of the Internet.
Now the information era had come – and with it the seeming impossibility to stop a torrent of information, views and perspectives being shared everywhere. Ideas that would have surely had you killed hundreds of years ago were now commonplace and easily accessible to all. Or so it seemed.
The Internet truly looked like one of those few rare inventions that could positively influence the world – giving free access to information for all, as well as uniting people from distant lands in the knowledge that they are not really as different as they may have previously thought. But as in many such cases, the human desire to control started rearing its ugly head.
Though the amount of misinformation can be rampant online, as well as the hate and fear that can circulate and find common-ground with others, creating echo-chambers of destructive thought, one wonders whether the true danger lies in allowing such information to spread unmitigated or whether the far greater threat comes from a reckless (and usually unsuccessful) desire to stomp it out of existence.

Censorship or Communication – Who or What Shall Be the Arbiter of Truth?

“All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently, the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Mrs. Warren's Profession
There has been much debate about the harmful nature of spreading misinformation, as well as promoting fear and hate based ideologies, due to their potential corrupting influences on human minds and in turn, whole societies. This goes as far back to the ideas of Socrates, where in his ideal Republic certain ideas, imagery, poems and literature would be banned from the public arena, censored out of existence (described primarily in books 2 & 3), in order to promote a society that would strive towards what is “right”.
Of course the first great problem here is the question of what indeed is right, correct and positive for the flourishing of a healthy society. Who decides on what should be censored and indeed based on what do they decide?
What is seen as morally correct has changed greatly throughout history and still differs from culture to culture – where, for example, homosexuality has been and still is believed to be a great sin in many areas of the planet (and has throughout many eras of human history), nowadays it is viewed in a far more accepting manner, especially in Western society. A great divergence from certain ancient cultures to modern times can be seen in something such as pederasty, which was seen as normal, and even encouraged, in certain eras of ancient Greece and Rome. Now similar practices are viewed as mostly sick and illegal due to minors being seen as unable to meaningfully consent to sexual activity with adults.
Mainstream scientific views have also been wrong many times throughout our times and have only gradually updated themselves through new discoveries that slowly seeped into the academic and public arena. Thus nowadays, despite the discoveries in quantum mechanics that describe the world as a relation between the observer and the observed, as well as imply a non-deterministic reality, the old Newtonian world-view of pure objectivity and determinism is still very much rooted in most of society’s thinking. There are many more such examples that can be given throughout history. Let me simply mention that until 1803, when their reality was finally conceded, meteorites were seen as a myth and superstition. “Stones cannot fall from the sky” – so all reports of such phenomena were viewed as delusions. In 1772 the prestigious French Academy of Science appointed a committee to investigate such claims of “falling rocks” and concluded that they could not be real. Its conclusions were so convincing that museums all over Western Europe threw away their meteorite specimens.
If morality, beliefs and science are insufficient in creating a template for what should be discussed and what should be censored away, then what should that template even be? Perhaps, just perhaps the censorship of any ideas may not be the best solution after all? Perhaps all ideas should remain on the table, free to be debated at will, while more and better information should be given instead of that which is blatantly false and divisive to be forcibly removed from the public's awareness.

Can One Stomp Out Dissent?

“To forbid us anything is to make us have a mind for it.”
― Michel de Montaigne, Montaigne: Essays
Conversely, does censorship even work in actually uprooting the ideas and beliefs of individuals and groups – or does it merely drive these ideas underground, into greater echo-chambers where further radicalization can occur?
An idea or belief can only survive as long as it is seen as logically correct, or if the emotions behind it are so strong as to keep it afloat (usually it is a bit of both, though feelings do seem to come over facts in modern discourse – sadly we are all to blame in this to some degree, even though many may claim otherwise, not realizing their own blind-spots).
Thus the only way to neutralize it is to dissolve the emotion behind it and/or refute its logical counter-part. Censorship, of course, does neither of the above. In fact, if an idea is censored and not refuted (especially when many have already taken it into their consciousness) and the emotional wounds behind it are not healed (if it is based on fear or anger), it is extremely likely to continue spreading in some way. Not only that, the desire for its believers to spread it will become far greater, and in their minds more justified, due to its censorship.
The mere move towards censoring an idea is something that can often make it more popular, in what can be described as the phenomenon of psychological reactance. For example ― in 2003, Barbra Streisand sued photographer Kenneth Adelman for taking a photograph of her Malibu mansion, citing violation of privacy as a reason. The photograph of her estate, which had been downloaded a mere few times from Adelman’s website before that, became so popular as the result of the well-publicized lawsuit that it was downloaded near half-a-million times in the following month. The social phenomenon of information spreading even more widely after its attempted censorship has thus been dubbed The Streisand Effect.
But of course, this phenomenon is nothing new and can be seen throughout history.
Did the vast persecution of Christians since Roman times and a desire to stop their religious expression stop Christianity as a whole? Did the censorship of literature related to male homosexuality and birth control in the 19th century (especially in Britain) cause “gayness” to die off, or the movement for its inclusion in society to cease? Did the censoring of such works as Ulysses, by James Joyce, Lady Chatterley’s Lover, by DH Lawrence, and Howl, by Allen Ginsberg, remove these books out of existence or did they perchance become bestsellers?
Censorship, in terms of its desire to control is similar to war – it comes with a desire to stomp out the opposition in the hopes that it can and will allow itself to be eliminated by force. But if the war on terror and the one on drugs have given such poor results, how on Earth can a war on specific forms of information ever hope to be a success (putting aside the question whether success in such a “war” should even be hoped for)? Information is much like water, or air, but even subtler than that. It is carried through our consciousness, our minds, and without controlling the inner world and will of all, the flow of ideas can never be truly ceased.
Perhaps the greatest thing that can be done, especially in the case of fear and hate based ideologies, is the promotion of emotional healing and alternative arguments that may give people a different perspective and allow them to step into “a new story”, as one of my favourite social philosophers, Charles Eisenstein, would say.

The Parallels Between Meditation and Free Speech

“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…”
― Hermes Trismegistus
As someone that has practiced meditation for many years now, I cannot help but see some very significant parallels between the suppression of thoughts, ideas (including corresponding emotions) on the level of the individual – and the suppression of those very same aspects on the societal and global scale.
In my experience, whenever something is suppressed in the human mind, pushed into the subconscious, it desires to rise up again into consciousness, where it will be acknowledged and integrated back into the psyche. Through meditative practice, emotions and thoughts are allowed to arise, be felt, observed and thus integrated. It is awareness that is the great healer, the great catalyst for change – and by relegating pain back to the unconscious, by suppressing it, as well as our desires and needs, our joys and fears, trials and tribulations, we will ensure that mental health, inner peace and happiness will always be out of reach.
Throughout my life I have noticed that what applies to the individual very often also applies to the collective. For what else is the collective than a group of individuals, a collective consciousness, a hive-mind that in many ways can be said to be an organism in and of itself?
If collectively, the thoughts, emotions and perspectives of individuals are suppressed and denied, if their ideas are censored out of existence, if they are not allowed to speak freely, the consequences to the health of the society that these individuals comprise will become nothing short of disastrous.
If they are on the other hand allowed to come into the light of awareness of the collective organism of humanity, healing and integration can begin, most often through healthy discourse and debate. Even the most wretched and hateful belief-systems, even the ideas that seem to fly in the face of all logic and reason (though many times, when facing some of these ideas, we see that perhaps our own logic and reason needs an update as well) can and must be brought to the attention of mass consciousness, in order for integration and healing (in the case of great fear and hate) to occur.
It is futile to believe that ideologies based on a lack of sensibility and empathy will simply disappear if we ignore them. This is mirrored in the belief that many people still have, where their own inner shadow or the aspects of themselves they have deemed unfitting or unworthy will simply vanish into thin air if they are never acknowledged. This will simply not occur, for it is impossible for healing to happen without awareness, it is impossible for change to happen without the light of consciousness, it is impossible for understanding to come without acknowledgment.
Through repression and suppression of people’s thoughts, opinions and emotions those very aspects begin to come up in other areas of individual and collective life – for what is suppressed will eventually come up into consciousness, whether through a verbalized opinion (perhaps the least problematic of all), an action, or ultimately on the most extreme collective scale – through war.
Thus the only way forward is to turn on the light and let the darkness be dissolved in its presence. As within, so without, as above so below – and if I might add, as in the individual, so in the collective.

The Discourse Deciders of the Information Age

“Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.”
― Benjamin Franklin
It is now that the entirety of online discourse has been guided towards and centralized in a few mega-platforms, owned by enormous corporations and spear-headed by out of touch and often morally destitute billionaires. Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit (some of these owned by the same company) are now the norm for searching, communicating, sharing, discussing and seeking out entertainment on the Web. On a myriad of devices, these websites are the default choice for many activities, often so integrated that they cannot even be removed (for example - on many new smartphones, various Google apps, as well as Facebook cannot be uninstalled), thus guiding especially new, and technically less savvy, users to being more inclined to use them.
Because everyone now uses these platforms, it is more likely that companies, political parties, or even individuals trying to speak their mind, will use them as well. Whether because of a desire to spread influence, sell a product or merely speak their mind, being on these platforms means more people will hear your voice and thus your reach will be far greater than elsewhere. Not to mention that most of these sites, through the immense profits they have accrued (mainly of course through the participation of the masses), have the ability to manage vast amounts of data and users, through expensive physical infrastructure and top software engineers, thus making their monopoly in the online world even fiercer. The idea that one can simply “create their own YouTube” is obviously an illusion, since the upkeep costs would be far beyond most people’s (or even companies’) reach.
These vast corporations and their respective platform hold an immense monopoly on Internet discourse – and through the power they hold, they have a massive say in what ideas, beliefs and perspectives, as well as which individuals discussing them are allowed in online discourse. And since online discourse now comprises the main aspect of mass human discussion and debate in general, these platforms have the power to shape and mold the minds of people, rivaled in their power perhaps only by television at the height of its influence.

Solutions to Combat Silencing

“Proclaim the truth and do not be silent through fear.”
― St. Catherine of Siena
So what should be done? I suggest the greatest antidote to censorship is speaking one’s mind fully and without fear. Only by being afraid of speaking up, only through fear of being “canceled” or viciously verbally assaulted (real possibilities, but still far lesser repercussions than those people faced in the past), can ideas and perspectives be silenced and allowed to fester in the individual and global subconscious.
If possible, try to be a good example when you do speak your mind. Educate yourself on the topics you are discussing, listen to other people and consider their opinions and perspectives, allow yourself to be aware of your emotional triggers, wounds and how they influence your thinking and reasoning.
If at all possible, consider engaging in a meditation practice – that alone will give you far greater clarity of mind, the ability to transcend emotional wounds that prevent insightful and unimpeded reasoning (including listening to others with an open-mind), as well as that crucial element that we should all be striving for in order to make our society better – compassion. In a way, clear and open communication naturally gives rise to compassion (and ultimately is a form of compassion), as you allow yourself to truly hear and know the other person’s perspective, thereby updating and clarifying your own.
It is clear, open communication and debate that we should all be striving for in order to make this society better, in order to dispel misinformation and hate, as well as to foster empathy for one another and our distinct perspectives that make life the cornucopia of diversity and uniqueness that it is.
This has also been posted here:
The Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship
My site for the curious:
www.embraceyourexperience.com
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2020.11.22 19:13 Jac0b777 An In-Depth Examination of the Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship

"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties."
– John Milton, Areopagitica
Free speech, or the ability to freely speak your mind (especially in a public venue), has had a tumultuous ride throughout humanity’s history. Though there have been strong movements for the freedom of expression dating back to ancient Greece and Rome, in reality it was still very easy to get executed when speaking truth to power, or when going against the cultural or religious grain at the time (Socrates’ death sentence for “subversion of the youth” and impiety [in his case disbelief in the Gods of the state] being one well known example).
From being burned at the stake, excommunicated, imprisoned, fined or even sent to a labor camp, many of the people that comprised our societies throughout history have not been too keen on hearing what other people thought or believed. Though freedom of speech was often idealized in principle, that principle could be (and often was) very quickly swept aside when it contradicted what was commonly seen as correct, true or morally right in terms of the values, beliefs, scientific paradigms and religious perceptions of the time.
With the advent of the printing press, the ability to speak your mind freely skyrocketed, but so too did censorship, imposed primarily by the Church due to fears of heresy. In fact, the origins of most copyright law originate in the Catholic Church and a variety of governments’ attempt to control the flow of information through printing.
The ability to share and disseminate “illegal” information was now easier than before, but the penalties were still great and anonymity in sharing difficult. However, throughout the 20th century the extent and importance of free speech increased greatly – and ultimately came to a head with the advent and incredible spread of the Internet.
Now the information era had come – and with it the seeming impossibility to stop a torrent of information, views and perspectives being shared everywhere. Ideas that would have surely had you killed hundreds of years ago were now commonplace and easily accessible to all. Or so it seemed.
The Internet truly looked like one of those few rare inventions that could positively influence the world – giving free access to information for all, as well as uniting people from distant lands in the knowledge that they are not really as different as they may have previously thought. But as in many such cases, the human desire to control started rearing its ugly head.
Though the amount of misinformation can be rampant online, as well as the hate and fear that can circulate and find common-ground with others, creating echo-chambers of destructive thought, one wonders whether the true danger lies in allowing such information to spread unmitigated or whether the far greater threat comes from a reckless (and usually unsuccessful) desire to stomp it out of existence.

Censorship or Communication – Who or What Shall Be the Arbiter of Truth?

“All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently, the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Mrs. Warren's Profession
There has been much debate about the harmful nature of spreading misinformation, as well as promoting fear and hate based ideologies, due to their potential corrupting influences on human minds and in turn, whole societies. This goes as far back to the ideas of Socrates, where in his ideal Republic certain ideas, imagery, poems and literature would be banned from the public arena, censored out of existence (described primarily in books 2 & 3), in order to promote a society that would strive towards what is “right”.
Of course the first great problem here is the question of what indeed is right, correct and positive for the flourishing of a healthy society. Who decides on what should be censored and indeed based on what do they decide?
What is seen as morally correct has changed greatly throughout history and still differs from culture to culture – where, for example, homosexuality has been and still is believed to be a great sin in many areas of the planet (and has throughout many eras of human history), nowadays it is viewed in a far more accepting manner, especially in Western society. A great divergence from certain ancient cultures to modern times can be seen in something such as pederasty, which was seen as normal, and even encouraged, in certain eras of ancient Greece and Rome. Now similar practices are viewed as mostly sick and illegal due to minors being seen as unable to meaningfully consent to sexual activity with adults.
Mainstream scientific views have also been wrong many times throughout our times and have only gradually updated themselves through new discoveries that slowly seeped into the academic and public arena. Thus nowadays, despite the discoveries in quantum mechanics that describe the world as a relation between the observer and the observed, as well as imply a non-deterministic reality, the old Newtonian world-view of pure objectivity and determinism is still very much rooted in most of society’s thinking. There are many more such examples that can be given throughout history. Let me simply mention that until 1803, when their reality was finally conceded, meteorites were seen as a myth and superstition. “Stones cannot fall from the sky” – so all reports of such phenomena were viewed as delusions. In 1772 the prestigious French Academy of Science appointed a committee to investigate such claims of “falling rocks” and concluded that they could not be real. Its conclusions were so convincing that museums all over Western Europe threw away their meteorite specimens.
If morality, beliefs and science are insufficient in creating a template for what should be discussed and what should be censored away, then what should that template even be? Perhaps, just perhaps the censorship of any ideas may not be the best solution after all? Perhaps all ideas should remain on the table, free to be debated at will, while more and better information should be given instead of that which is blatantly false and divisive to be forcibly removed from the public's awareness.

Can One Stomp Out Dissent?

“To forbid us anything is to make us have a mind for it.”
― Michel de Montaigne, Montaigne: Essays
Conversely, does censorship even work in actually uprooting the ideas and beliefs of individuals and groups – or does it merely drive these ideas underground, into greater echo-chambers where further radicalization can occur?
An idea or belief can only survive as long as it is seen as logically correct, or if the emotions behind it are so strong as to keep it afloat (usually it is a bit of both, though feelings do seem to come over facts in modern discourse – sadly we are all to blame in this to some degree, even though many may claim otherwise, not realizing their own blind-spots).
Thus the only way to neutralize it is to dissolve the emotion behind it and/or refute its logical counter-part. Censorship, of course, does neither of the above. In fact, if an idea is censored and not refuted (especially when many have already taken it into their consciousness) and the emotional wounds behind it are not healed (if it is based on fear or anger), it is extremely likely to continue spreading in some way. Not only that, the desire for its believers to spread it will become far greater, and in their minds more justified, due to its censorship.
The mere move towards censoring an idea is something that can often make it more popular, in what can be described as the phenomenon of psychological reactance. For example ― in 2003, Barbra Streisand sued photographer Kenneth Adelman for taking a photograph of her Malibu mansion, citing violation of privacy as a reason. The photograph of her estate, which had been downloaded a mere few times from Adelman’s website before that, became so popular as the result of the well-publicized lawsuit that it was downloaded near half-a-million times in the following month. The social phenomenon of information spreading even more widely after its attempted censorship has thus been dubbed The Streisand Effect.
But of course, this phenomenon is nothing new and can be seen throughout history.
Did the vast persecution of Christians since Roman times and a desire to stop their religious expression stop Christianity as a whole? Did the censorship of literature related to male homosexuality and birth control in the 19th century (especially in Britain) cause “gayness” to die off, or the movement for its inclusion in society to cease? Did the censoring of such works as Ulysses, by James Joyce, Lady Chatterley’s Lover, by DH Lawrence, and Howl, by Allen Ginsberg, remove these books out of existence or did they perchance become bestsellers?
Censorship, in terms of its desire to control is similar to war – it comes with a desire to stomp out the opposition in the hopes that it can and will allow itself to be eliminated by force. But if the war on terror and the one on drugs have given such poor results, how on Earth can a war on specific forms of information ever hope to be a success (putting aside the question whether success in such a “war” should even be hoped for)? Information is much like water, or air, but even subtler than that. It is carried through our consciousness, our minds, and without controlling the inner world and will of all, the flow of ideas can never be truly ceased.
Perhaps the greatest thing that can be done, especially in the case of fear and hate based ideologies, is the promotion of emotional healing and alternative arguments that may give people a different perspective and allow them to step into “a new story”, as one of my favourite social philosophers, Charles Eisenstein, would say.

The Parallels Between Meditation and Free Speech

“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…”
― Hermes Trismegistus
As someone that has practiced meditation for many years now, I cannot help but see some very significant parallels between the suppression of thoughts, ideas (including corresponding emotions) on the level of the individual – and the suppression of those very same aspects on the societal and global scale.
In my experience, whenever something is suppressed in the human mind, pushed into the subconscious, it desires to rise up again into consciousness, where it will be acknowledged and integrated back into the psyche. Through meditative practice, emotions and thoughts are allowed to arise, be felt, observed and thus integrated. It is awareness that is the great healer, the great catalyst for change – and by relegating pain back to the unconscious, by suppressing it, as well as our desires and needs, our joys and fears, trials and tribulations, we will ensure that mental health, inner peace and happiness will always be out of reach.
Throughout my life I have noticed that what applies to the individual very often also applies to the collective. For what else is the collective than a group of individuals, a collective consciousness, a hive-mind that in many ways can be said to be an organism in and of itself?
If collectively, the thoughts, emotions and perspectives of individuals are suppressed and denied, if their ideas are censored out of existence, if they are not allowed to speak freely, the consequences to the health of the society that these individuals comprise will become nothing short of disastrous.
If they are on the other hand allowed to come into the light of awareness of the collective organism of humanity, healing and integration can begin, most often through healthy discourse and debate. Even the most wretched and hateful belief-systems, even the ideas that seem to fly in the face of all logic and reason (though many times, when facing some of these ideas, we see that perhaps our own logic and reason needs an update as well) can and must be brought to the attention of mass consciousness, in order for integration and healing (in the case of great fear and hate) to occur.
It is futile to believe that ideologies based on a lack of sensibility and empathy will simply disappear if we ignore them. This is mirrored in the belief that many people still have, where their own inner shadow or the aspects of themselves they have deemed unfitting or unworthy will simply vanish into thin air if they are never acknowledged. This will simply not occur, for it is impossible for healing to happen without awareness, it is impossible for change to happen without the light of consciousness, it is impossible for understanding to come without acknowledgment.
Through repression and suppression of people’s thoughts, opinions and emotions those very aspects begin to come up in other areas of individual and collective life – for what is suppressed will eventually come up into consciousness, whether through a verbalized opinion (perhaps the least problematic of all), an action, or ultimately on the most extreme collective scale – through war.
Thus the only way forward is to turn on the light and let the darkness be dissolved in its presence. As within, so without, as above so below – and if I might add, as in the individual, so in the collective.

The Discourse Deciders of the Information Age

“Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.”
― Benjamin Franklin
It is now that the entirety of online discourse has been guided towards and centralized in a few mega-platforms, owned by enormous corporations and spear-headed by out of touch and often morally destitute billionaires. Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit (some of these owned by the same company) are now the norm for searching, communicating, sharing, discussing and seeking out entertainment on the Web. On a myriad of devices, these websites are the default choice for many activities, often so integrated that they cannot even be removed (for example - on many new smartphones, various Google apps, as well as Facebook cannot be uninstalled), thus guiding especially new, and technically less savvy, users to being more inclined to use them.
Because everyone now uses these platforms, it is more likely that companies, political parties, or even individuals trying to speak their mind, will use them as well. Whether because of a desire to spread influence, sell a product or merely speak their mind, being on these platforms means more people will hear your voice and thus your reach will be far greater than elsewhere. Not to mention that most of these sites, through the immense profits they have accrued (mainly of course through the participation of the masses), have the ability to manage vast amounts of data and users, through expensive physical infrastructure and top software engineers, thus making their monopoly in the online world even fiercer. The idea that one can simply “create their own YouTube” is obviously an illusion, since the upkeep costs would be far beyond most people’s (or even companies’) reach.
These vast corporations and their respective platform hold an immense monopoly on Internet discourse – and through the power they hold, they have a massive say in what ideas, beliefs and perspectives, as well as which individuals discussing them are allowed in online discourse. And since online discourse now comprises the main aspect of mass human discussion and debate in general, these platforms have the power to shape and mold the minds of people, rivaled in their power perhaps only by television at the height of its influence.

Solutions to Combat Silencing

“Proclaim the truth and do not be silent through fear.”
― St. Catherine of Siena
So what should be done? I suggest the greatest antidote to censorship is speaking one’s mind fully and without fear. Only by being afraid of speaking up, only through fear of being “canceled” or viciously verbally assaulted (real possibilities, but still far lesser repercussions than those people faced in the past), can ideas and perspectives be silenced and allowed to fester in the individual and global subconscious.
If possible, try to be a good example when you do speak your mind. Educate yourself on the topics you are discussing, listen to other people and consider their opinions and perspectives, allow yourself to be aware of your emotional triggers, wounds and how they influence your thinking and reasoning.
If at all possible, consider engaging in a meditation practice – that alone will give you far greater clarity of mind, the ability to transcend emotional wounds that prevent insightful and unimpeded reasoning (including listening to others with an open-mind), as well as that crucial element that we should all be striving for in order to make our society better – compassion. In a way, clear and open communication naturally gives rise to compassion (and ultimately is a form of compassion), as you allow yourself to truly hear and know the other person’s perspective, thereby updating and clarifying your own.
It is clear, open communication and debate that we should all be striving for in order to make this society better, in order to dispel misinformation and hate, as well as to foster empathy for one another and our distinct perspectives that make life the cornucopia of diversity and uniqueness that it is.
This has also been posted here:
The Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship
My site for the curious:
www.embraceyourexperience.com
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2020.11.22 19:09 Jac0b777 An In-Depth Examination of the Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship

"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties."
– John Milton, Areopagitica
Free speech, or the ability to freely speak your mind (especially in a public venue), has had a tumultuous ride throughout humanity’s history. Though there have been strong movements for the freedom of expression dating back to ancient Greece and Rome, in reality it was still very easy to get executed when speaking truth to power, or when going against the cultural or religious grain at the time (Socrates’ death sentence for “subversion of the youth” and impiety [in his case disbelief in the Gods of the state] being one well known example).
From being burned at the stake, excommunicated, imprisoned, fined or even sent to a labor camp, many of the people that comprised our societies throughout history have not been too keen on hearing what other people thought or believed. Though freedom of speech was often idealized in principle, that principle could be (and often was) very quickly swept aside when it contradicted what was commonly seen as correct, true or morally right in terms of the values, beliefs, scientific paradigms and religious perceptions of the time.
With the advent of the printing press, the ability to speak your mind freely skyrocketed, but so too did censorship, imposed primarily by the Church due to fears of heresy. In fact, the origins of most copyright law originate in the Catholic Church and a variety of governments’ attempt to control the flow of information through printing.
The ability to share and disseminate “illegal” information was now easier than before, but the penalties were still great and anonymity in sharing difficult. However, throughout the 20th century the extent and importance of free speech increased greatly – and ultimately came to a head with the advent and incredible spread of the Internet.
Now the information era had come – and with it the seeming impossibility to stop a torrent of information, views and perspectives being shared everywhere. Ideas that would have surely had you killed hundreds of years ago were now commonplace and easily accessible to all. Or so it seemed.
The Internet truly looked like one of those few rare inventions that could positively influence the world – giving free access to information for all, as well as uniting people from distant lands in the knowledge that they are not really as different as they may have previously thought. But as in many such cases, the human desire to control started rearing its ugly head.
Though the amount of misinformation can be rampant online, as well as the hate and fear that can circulate and find common-ground with others, creating echo-chambers of destructive thought, one wonders whether the true danger lies in allowing such information to spread unmitigated or whether the far greater threat comes from a reckless (and usually unsuccessful) desire to stomp it out of existence.

Censorship or Communication – Who or What Shall Be the Arbiter of Truth?

“All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently, the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Mrs. Warren's Profession
There has been much debate about the harmful nature of spreading misinformation, as well as promoting fear and hate based ideologies, due to their potential corrupting influences on human minds and in turn, whole societies. This goes as far back to the ideas of Socrates, where in his ideal Republic certain ideas, imagery, poems and literature would be banned from the public arena, censored out of existence (described primarily in books 2 & 3), in order to promote a society that would strive towards what is “right”.
Of course the first great problem here is the question of what indeed is right, correct and positive for the flourishing of a healthy society. Who decides on what should be censored and indeed based on what do they decide?
What is seen as morally correct has changed greatly throughout history and still differs from culture to culture – where, for example, homosexuality has been and still is believed to be a great sin in many areas of the planet (and has throughout many eras of human history), nowadays it is viewed in a far more accepting manner, especially in Western society. A great divergence from certain ancient cultures to modern times can be seen in something such as pederasty, which was seen as normal, and even encouraged, in certain eras of ancient Greece and Rome. Now similar practices are viewed as mostly sick and illegal due to minors being seen as unable to meaningfully consent to sexual activity with adults.
Mainstream scientific views have also been wrong many times throughout our times and have only gradually updated themselves through new discoveries that slowly seeped into the academic and public arena. Thus nowadays, despite the discoveries in quantum mechanics that describe the world as a relation between the observer and the observed, as well as imply a non-deterministic reality, the old Newtonian world-view of pure objectivity and determinism is still very much rooted in most of society’s thinking. There are many more such examples that can be given throughout history. Let me simply mention that until 1803, when their reality was finally conceded, meteorites were seen as a myth and superstition. “Stones cannot fall from the sky” – so all reports of such phenomena were viewed as delusions. In 1772 the prestigious French Academy of Science appointed a committee to investigate such claims of “falling rocks” and concluded that they could not be real. Its conclusions were so convincing that museums all over Western Europe threw away their meteorite specimens.
If morality, beliefs and science are insufficient in creating a template for what should be discussed and what should be censored away, then what should that template even be? Perhaps, just perhaps the censorship of any ideas may not be the best solution after all? Perhaps all ideas should remain on the table, free to be debated at will, while more and better information should be given instead of that which is blatantly false and divisive to be forcibly removed from the public's awareness.

Can One Stomp Out Dissent?

“To forbid us anything is to make us have a mind for it.”
― Michel de Montaigne, Montaigne: Essays
Conversely, does censorship even work in actually uprooting the ideas and beliefs of individuals and groups – or does it merely drive these ideas underground, into greater echo-chambers where further radicalization can occur?
An idea or belief can only survive as long as it is seen as logically correct, or if the emotions behind it are so strong as to keep it afloat (usually it is a bit of both, though feelings do seem to come over facts in modern discourse – sadly we are all to blame in this to some degree, even though many may claim otherwise, not realizing their own blind-spots).
Thus the only way to neutralize it is to dissolve the emotion behind it and/or refute its logical counter-part. Censorship, of course, does neither of the above. In fact, if an idea is censored and not refuted (especially when many have already taken it into their consciousness) and the emotional wounds behind it are not healed (if it is based on fear or anger), it is extremely likely to continue spreading in some way. Not only that, the desire for its believers to spread it will become far greater, and in their minds more justified, due to its censorship.
The mere move towards censoring an idea is something that can often make it more popular, in what can be described as the phenomenon of psychological reactance. For example ― in 2003, Barbra Streisand sued photographer Kenneth Adelman for taking a photograph of her Malibu mansion, citing violation of privacy as a reason. The photograph of her estate, which had been downloaded a mere few times from Adelman’s website before that, became so popular as the result of the well-publicized lawsuit that it was downloaded near half-a-million times in the following month. The social phenomenon of information spreading even more widely after its attempted censorship has thus been dubbed The Streisand Effect.
But of course, this phenomenon is nothing new and can be seen throughout history.
Did the vast persecution of Christians since Roman times and a desire to stop their religious expression stop Christianity as a whole? Did the censorship of literature related to male homosexuality and birth control in the 19th century (especially in Britain) cause “gayness” to die off, or the movement for its inclusion in society to cease? Did the censoring of such works as Ulysses, by James Joyce, Lady Chatterley’s Lover, by DH Lawrence, and Howl, by Allen Ginsberg, remove these books out of existence or did they perchance become bestsellers?
Censorship, in terms of its desire to control is similar to war – it comes with a desire to stomp out the opposition in the hopes that it can and will allow itself to be eliminated by force. But if the war on terror and the one on drugs have given such poor results, how on Earth can a war on specific forms of information ever hope to be a success (putting aside the question whether success in such a “war” should even be hoped for)? Information is much like water, or air, but even subtler than that. It is carried through our consciousness, our minds, and without controlling the inner world and will of all, the flow of ideas can never be truly ceased.
Perhaps the greatest thing that can be done, especially in the case of fear and hate based ideologies, is the promotion of emotional healing and alternative arguments that may give people a different perspective and allow them to step into “a new story”, as one of my favourite social philosophers, Charles Eisenstein, would say.

The Parallels Between Meditation and Free Speech

“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…”
― Hermes Trismegistus
As someone that has practiced meditation for many years now, I cannot help but see some very significant parallels between the suppression of thoughts, ideas (including corresponding emotions) on the level of the individual – and the suppression of those very same aspects on the societal and global scale.
In my experience, whenever something is suppressed in the human mind, pushed into the subconscious, it desires to rise up again into consciousness, where it will be acknowledged and integrated back into the psyche. Through meditative practice, emotions and thoughts are allowed to arise, be felt, observed and thus integrated. It is awareness that is the great healer, the great catalyst for change – and by relegating pain back to the unconscious, by suppressing it, as well as our desires and needs, our joys and fears, trials and tribulations, we will ensure that mental health, inner peace and happiness will always be out of reach.
Throughout my life I have noticed that what applies to the individual very often also applies to the collective. For what else is the collective than a group of individuals, a collective consciousness, a hive-mind that in many ways can be said to be an organism in and of itself?
If collectively, the thoughts, emotions and perspectives of individuals are suppressed and denied, if their ideas are censored out of existence, if they are not allowed to speak freely, the consequences to the health of the society that these individuals comprise will become nothing short of disastrous.
If they are on the other hand allowed to come into the light of awareness of the collective organism of humanity, healing and integration can begin, most often through healthy discourse and debate. Even the most wretched and hateful belief-systems, even the ideas that seem to fly in the face of all logic and reason (though many times, when facing some of these ideas, we see that perhaps our own logic and reason needs an update as well) can and must be brought to the attention of mass consciousness, in order for integration and healing (in the case of great fear and hate) to occur.
It is futile to believe that ideologies based on a lack of sensibility and empathy will simply disappear if we ignore them. This is mirrored in the belief that many people still have, where their own inner shadow or the aspects of themselves they have deemed unfitting or unworthy will simply vanish into thin air if they are never acknowledged. This will simply not occur, for it is impossible for healing to happen without awareness, it is impossible for change to happen without the light of consciousness, it is impossible for understanding to come without acknowledgment.
Through repression and suppression of people’s thoughts, opinions and emotions those very aspects begin to come up in other areas of individual and collective life – for what is suppressed will eventually come up into consciousness, whether through a verbalized opinion (perhaps the least problematic of all), an action, or ultimately on the most extreme collective scale – through war.
Thus the only way forward is to turn on the light and let the darkness be dissolved in its presence. As within, so without, as above so below – and if I might add, as in the individual, so in the collective.

The Discourse Deciders of the Information Age

“Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.”
― Benjamin Franklin
It is now that the entirety of online discourse has been guided towards and centralized in a few mega-platforms, owned by enormous corporations and spear-headed by out of touch and often morally destitute billionaires. Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit (some of these owned by the same company) are now the norm for searching, communicating, sharing, discussing and seeking out entertainment on the Web. On a myriad of devices, these websites are the default choice for many activities, often so integrated that they cannot even be removed (for example - on many new smartphones, various Google apps, as well as Facebook cannot be uninstalled), thus guiding especially new, and technically less savvy, users to being more inclined to use them.
Because everyone now uses these platforms, it is more likely that companies, political parties, or even individuals trying to speak their mind, will use them as well. Whether because of a desire to spread influence, sell a product or merely speak their mind, being on these platforms means more people will hear your voice and thus your reach will be far greater than elsewhere. Not to mention that most of these sites, through the immense profits they have accrued (mainly of course through the participation of the masses), have the ability to manage vast amounts of data and users, through expensive physical infrastructure and top software engineers, thus making their monopoly in the online world even fiercer. The idea that one can simply “create their own YouTube” is obviously an illusion, since the upkeep costs would be far beyond most people’s (or even companies’) reach.
These vast corporations and their respective platform hold an immense monopoly on Internet discourse – and through the power they hold, they have a massive say in what ideas, beliefs and perspectives, as well as which individuals discussing them are allowed in online discourse. And since online discourse now comprises the main aspect of mass human discussion and debate in general, these platforms have the power to shape and mold the minds of people, rivaled in their power perhaps only by television at the height of its influence.

Solutions to Combat Silencing

“Proclaim the truth and do not be silent through fear.”
― St. Catherine of Siena
So what should be done? I suggest the greatest antidote to censorship is speaking one’s mind fully and without fear. Only by being afraid of speaking up, only through fear of being “canceled” or viciously verbally assaulted (real possibilities, but still far lesser repercussions than those people faced in the past), can ideas and perspectives be silenced and allowed to fester in the individual and global subconscious.
If possible, try to be a good example when you do speak your mind. Educate yourself on the topics you are discussing, listen to other people and consider their opinions and perspectives, allow yourself to be aware of your emotional triggers, wounds and how they influence your thinking and reasoning.
If at all possible, consider engaging in a meditation practice – that alone will give you far greater clarity of mind, the ability to transcend emotional wounds that prevent insightful and unimpeded reasoning (including listening to others with an open-mind), as well as that crucial element that we should all be striving for in order to make our society better – compassion. In a way, clear and open communication naturally gives rise to compassion (and ultimately is a form of compassion), as you allow yourself to truly hear and know the other person’s perspective, thereby updating and clarifying your own.
It is clear, open communication and debate that we should all be striving for in order to make this society better, in order to dispel misinformation and hate, as well as to foster empathy for one another and our distinct perspectives that make life the cornucopia of diversity and uniqueness that it is.
This has also been posted here:
The Importance of Free Speech, Its Parallels With Meditation and the Futility of Censorship
My site for the curious:
www.embraceyourexperience.com
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2020.11.21 23:48 Acedic_pain Question about OTO-313

Hi everyone, new in the tinnitus hellscape since 3 months, searching a miracle cure on the internet, found nothing except "you'll get used to". I'm posting here because my post was removed from researchtinnitus, maybe because this is something they don't want to know (or I don't understand the rules of the sub but anyway).
Yesterday, I was reading a french article (I'm french, so if I make mistake in my english, sorry) in a scientic vulgarization magazine titled " Tinnitus: finally a hope of treatment ".
It's about the different cure we can expect in a "near" future for tinnitus. One speak of magnetic neurostimulation (shit) and the rest is about gacyclidine, the molecule in Oto-313. The article is dated of 2010 and tells us the first test on human with the molecule and the results (3 weeks of appeasement ...)
BUT the last year, the article was updated, and they say " Only downside, the treatment only works if the tinnitus is less than a year old" but without further details or scientic data, just this sentence. They said that after one year, the tinnitus is in the brain, and it's over.
So what ? I had never read anything about a timecode of the tinnitus, and the incapacity of OTO-313 for old tinnitus. What does that mean ? Could you invalidate this, that I remind, is declared without revue's refferal ?
You can find the article here : https://www.science-et-vie.com/archives/accouphenes-enfin-un-espoir-de-traitement-27859 but it's in french and you need a subscription, but believe me, what I read is type in it.
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2020.11.21 21:22 MarsNirgal [Eurovision] Spain in the 70's to the 90's and some related drama

Here comes part 2: Spain in Eurovision. I was planning to make a post about the 2000's and the previous post and this one would be the introduction, but this turned out to be rather long and I haven't even had a proper breakfast, so that will be for the next post for sure. Likely. Hopefully.
Here's a quick FAQ that you may need:
If you want a more in-detail explanation about Eurovision, you can find it at the beginning of my previous post.
At the end of that post we had left Spain (and the rest of Europe) in 1970, tangled in the aftermath of an unforeseen four-way tie. There was not that much drama during the next thirty years, but there is enough to make a summary post of all that happened:
Spain placed second in 1971 losing to Monaco. And since there was no drama involving pain, let's talk about Monaco.
Severine, the winner in 1971, was French. Now, the Eurovision rules don't state that the singers representing a country have to be nationals of that country, and Monaco was never represented by a Monegasque national because they're a super-small country and most of their population aren't even nationals. (Actually, Monaco is so tiny that they were unable to host the contest. They are the only country that has won the contest and never hosted it)
(That's not so unusual. Luxembourg was also represented by foreign singers in 29 out of their 38 participations, including their five victories, and San Marino has had foreign representatives in over half of their entries including Turkish sex god Serhat )
However, there was some drama when she later stated in interviews that she had never even visited Monaco and hadn't been invited to visit it even after winning. Turns out she was wrong. She had recorded a short preview video of the song in Monaco before the contest. Her excuse was that she had forgotten about that. That's how much she cared about the country she was representing.
Also, she never got paid for the song and ended up suing her manager.
Anyway, Spain placed second again in 1973 with "Eres tú" by Mocedades. This is widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best moment of Spain in Eurovision. In a retrospective made in 2005 it was named one of the 14 best songs in the contest history, beating the 1973 winner.
But of course, there was drama. There was an accusation that the song was plagiarizing the Yugoslavian entry of 1966, Brez Besed. I have to admit there is a lot of similarity there and the accusations may have some substance. There was a lot of talk about it, but since copyright laws were not as well established, eventually it all boiled down to nothing.
Spain placed second AGAIN in 1979 with "Su canción" by Betty Missiego. Now, there was not really drama here but I still think you may enjoy it. First of all, the winner was Hallelujah, representing Israel, which has become an Eurovision myth in its own right.
But the way it happened is what made this good. See, this was happening under the classic Eurovision voting system, that started being used in 1975. Under this system, each country awards points to their top 10 favourite countries: tenth place receives one point, ninth place two points, and so on until the third place receives eight points, then the second place receives ten points (not nine), and the first place receives twelve points. With some modifications about how the points have been determined or announced, this was in place from 1975 to 2015.
This was a two horse race with Spain and Israel leading, and when all countries but two had voted Israel was leading with one point (107 to 106). Then Austria gave eight points to Israel and ten to Spain which left them leading the scoreboard 116 points, with Israel barely behind at 115 points, so everything was up to the last country voting, which was... Spain.
In Eurovision, you're not allowed to vote for yourself, so Spain couldn't give themselves any points. This means if they gave any points at all to Israel, Israel would win (even giving them one point and tying the tie-breaker would decide in favour of Israel).
And then Spain did it. They gave Israel ten points, handing them the victory. Here you can see it happen.. The uproar has a lot to do also with the fact that Israel was hosting because they had won the previous year. Winning twice in a row is a pretty rare feat and has only happened four times in the history of the contest (we already mentioned Spain in '68 and '69, Luxembourg did it in '72 and '73, Israel in '78 and '79, and most recently Ireland in '92, '93 and '94.)
Now, hosting the contest can be a bit troublesome and expensive (even back then when it was done at a much smaller scale), to in 1980 Israel declined to host. Spain as the runner up also declined, and eventually the contest was celebrated in The Hague, Netherlands. As of 2020, this was the last time that the contest was not celebrated in the country that won the year before.
Also, the date the Dutch chose for the contest clashed with the Israeli Day of Remembrance and eventualy they decided not to participate. This has been the only time in the history of the contest that the winning country didn't take part the next year.
Instead we got the debut of Morocco. Most Arabic countries have very tense relationships with Israel and a lot of them have laws that ban the broadcast of any Israeli content. On the other hand, the EBU insists that any country that takes part in Eurovision broadcasts the entirety of the contest, so as long as Israel is participating, most Arabic countries are unable to, which is why they seized the chance to do it in a year where Israel wasn't there.
Lebanon attempted to do the same in 2005 (This would have been their song and I fucking LOVE IT), but when they were unable to guarantee that they would show the Israeli entry they were disqualified before the contest began and issued a three year ban. No other Arabic country has made a serious attempt to enter Eurovision ever since.
But I digress, let's return to Spain. They placed last in 1983 with Remedios Amaya and "Quién maneja mi barca" with zero points. Under the current voting system, that means that a song failed to land in the top ten of all participating countries and it's not so common (although Norway managed to do it five times).
The only other point of drama worth a mention happened in 1990, when they were represented by Azúcar Moreno, a duet of sisters that sang "Bandido". Here's what happened and you can find the explanation below
This was a time when Eurovision was starting to move away from live music, and it was allowed to use backing tracks to complement the sound of the orchestra. What happened here was that one of the backing tracks started out of sync with the rest of the music and with the orchestra, and the singers didn't know what to do so they just left the stage confused. Props to the guitarist that kept on moving with the music trying to pretend that everything was normal, and to the public who clapped like "Yes, that was it. Nice. Who's next?".
Then the technicians checked the issue and fixed it in two minutes (for reference, the song was three minutes long) and they restarted and gave a pretty solid performance, and eventually placed fifth.
Spain would place second again in 1995, this time without drama, and last again in 1999 with a single point, again without drama although she won an unofficial award to the worst dressed artist of the year. And was pretty much deserved.
So this is where I was supposed to start talking about what I originally was going to talk, but (in the words of Scherezade) if the king spares my life for another night, I will continue this story.
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2020.11.21 15:03 AmericanNewt8 Begun, the Drone Wars have: Turkey, Libya, Syria, the Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict, and how drones are changing warfare

When you were voting, I studied the drone. When you were having coronavirus, I mastered electronic warfare. While you wasted your days at the firing range in pursuit of vanity, I cultivated force projection. And now that the world is on fire and the barbarians are at the gate you have the audacity to come to me for help.
--Anonymous Redditor, 2016 [translated by AmericanNewt8 into 2020ese]

A new kind of warfare has taken the world by storm this year. While most of us were preoccupied with the election, the coronavirus, and the other exciting events that have taken place over this year when decades happen, a small number of people have kept a close watch on distant battlegrounds in the Middle East; where the face of war has changed since January in ways that few would have predicted--and with it the region as a whole.

1. In the Beginning

But let's go back a ways; to the ancient world of circa 1980. Drones were not a new technology in any sense of the word--but they weren't particularly of interest beyond hobbyists, target drones, and occasional odd military projects like the D-21 reconnaissance drone. However, things were changing with the introduction of digital cameras and increasingly capable processors and transmitters as computers rapidly developed--and so it was only a matter of time before someone took advantage of that. That someone was the Israelis. Israel has a high level of technical expertise, large defense needs, but a relatively small industrial base, so it often pioneers technologies of this sort, and so it did with the Tadiran Mastiff.

This innovation quickly proved to be of significant utility in the First Lebanon War. Besides spotting Yasser Arafat, leader of the PLO, they played a crucial role in the still-infamous "Bekaa Valley turkey shoot" in which Israeli aircraft supported by UAVs destroyed a massive quantity of top-of-the-line Soviet hardware--almost 90 Syrian aircraft and 29 surface-to-air missile batteries at the total loss of minor damage to a pair of F-15s and one UAV shot down. Electronic warfare and AWACs control also proved crucial in this conflict, which in many ways paved the way for the successes of Desert Storm and the 2003 Iraq invasion; and reportedly shattered the self-confidence of the Soviet Union in its air defenses.

Since that first incident; UAVs have become an increasingly prominent part of the arsenal, particularly of the United States; though Israel and China also manufacture numerous UAVs and theirs are more popular in the export market due to lower prices and fewer scruples about "human rights" or "political stability". UAVs have become key reconnaissance assets and popular for precision-strike counter-insurgency missions. However, neither the United States nor China can claim credit for the latest developments--and Israel, at best, has played a peripheral role. The nation that everyone is watching now is Turkey.

2. Turkey

For most of history, Turkey; or at least the geographical area of Anatolia, was a great power of some shape or another. The modern Turkey, however, rejected the idea of empire and foreign adventurism under Ataturk; the father of the Republic. While it has generally tended towards the West--directed in that way both softly by the allure of Europe and drive for modernization; and with great force by the military, which has tended to depose any government that even hinted at reintroducing religious or Middle Eastern aspects back into the aggressively secular Republic, Turkey has not been a particularly major player in the past century. Despite joining NATO for protection against the Soviet Union--which despised Turkey's chokehold on the Bosporous--it never had much appetite for interventionism.

In the era of the "Great Convergence", where nations seem to be returning to historical norms of influence and power, it should be no real surprise then that Turkey has become more assertive. It has grown much wealthier thanks to its association with Europe; and that wealth is actually created by the Turks, not dug up out of the ground like it is in much of the Middle East. It is more educated; more progressive [this of course being a rather relative term] and, importantly, much better at fighting, than most of its neighbors.

Turkey has been working to build a domestic armaments industry with great success--barring a handful of key items like jet engines which hardly anyone can manufacture well, Turkey can do most things. In between indigenous development and picking up knowledge from South Korea, China, Ukraine, and so on, Turkey has one of the world's better arms industries--I'd say it's about reached the level that South Korea was at ten or twenty years ago, which is pretty good. Its drone program, however, started because of a different problem.

The Turks wanted drones back in the early 2000s for what we in the business call "reasons". Evidently the United States saw through this; because, despite allowing Turkey to license-assemble F-16s and build parts for the F-35, it did not sell Turkey drones for fear that they would be used against the Kurds[a perception that proved to be correct as Turkey has indeed used its UAVs against Kurdish insurgents]. As a result, Turkey decided to do it themselves, and started building up their own drone program from scratch. By the beginning of 2020, Turkey had a large drone program and advanced electronic-warfare equipment. But nobody was really paying attention to their drone program; it was a sideshow of limited interest compared to the big players, that would presumably be of some utility but not a game-changer. I mean, their premiere drone literally used an engine made for homebuilt aircraft and was the size and weight of a smart car. Nothing too impressive. That is, until January.

3. Libya

The Libyan conflict is a deeply convoluted one that is difficult to explain. In essence; Libya has been in some sort of civil war since Gaddafi was deposed in 2011, but the most recent division is between the GNA, or Government of National Accord--the UN-recognized government of Libya located in Tripoli--and the "Tobruk Government" which acts as a rubber-stamp body for Gaddafi wannabe General Haftar. Haftar started off this year with things looking pretty good. After breaking the second cease-fire agreement in as many years, flush with cash and support from the United Arab Emirates, Russia, and France, Haftar was on the move, pushing for Tripoli itself. It was going to take a while, but nothing could stop Haftar from defeating the ragtag GNA militias.

Nothing, that is, until Turkey unexpectedly showed up because of a completely different dispute over rights to the seas around Cyprus. Libya [the GNA to be precise] was willing to delineate its boundary with Turkey in a way which cut off Greek and Cypriot claims, and, in return, Turkey arrived after a highly contentious vote in the normally placid Turkish Grand National Assembly, with Syrian mercenaries in tow; but also a large number of drones--mostly the Bayraktar TB2-- and KORAL land-based standoff jammers.

What happened next was a deep humiliation for Russia in particular. Russia and the UAE had supplied General Haftar with a number of its premiere short-range air defense system, the much-vaunted Pantsir which was designed to shoot down UAVs, cruise missiles, and other small munitions. Unfortunately, the Pantsir proved much worse at shooting down Turkish drones than serving as target practice for them. Estimates suggest 23 systems were destroyed [Turkey even captured one system and presumably picked it apart for intelligence] while perhaps ~16 Bayraktar TB2 drones were destroyed--which doesn't sound terrible until one remembers that those drones caused significantly more destruction than the air-defense systems and come in at a third of the price; and becomes even less favorable when one realizes that as the conflict went on the ratio flipped increasingly in favor of the Turks. Ultimately, the Turks achieved their goal, with Haftar being pushed back to Sirte and another cease-fire agreement being signed. This conflict, however, has contributed significantly to the increasing rift between France and Turkey, and their respective relations with Russia.

4. Syria

Russia likes to test its luck--to see what exactly it can get away with. Invading Crimea, shooting down a civilian airliner, attempting to murder exiles with Novichok. Often, it does get away with it. But when nations actually push back, they often find great weakness--for instance, the infamous incident where Americans killed 200 Russian "mercenaries" in Syria after Russia denied they were Russian soldiers, or when American cyberwarriors shut down Russian trolls during the 2018 election. Nowhere is this more illustrated than in Syria, where, early this year, a "Syrian" airstrike killed 29 Turkish soldiers even though Russian involvement was an open secret.

What followed was not the usual vague condemnation and angry letter-writing that one might have expected. Instead, Turkey responded with a substantial escalation of force, again largely done by drones. Ultimately, around 200 Syrian government soldiers were killed in this short offensive--along with 45 tanks, 33 artillery pieces, 33 transport/utility vehicles, 20 armored vehicles, a pair of Su-24 aircraft that attacked a Turkish drone, and several SAM systems, which again proved largely ineffective against Turkish drones. While the conflict stopped before it went any further, the lesson was clear: Turkey was willing to escalate beyond where Russia was willing or able to respond, and there wasn't anything they could do about it.

Besides having a nice moral--extremely hard pushback is the best way to respond to Russian provocation, because they aren't expecting it and can't fight back since they lack effective escalation methods--this conflict proved again that Turkish drones were highly effective even against a state actor [albeit a weak one, like Syria]. The world watched--but nowhere else as closely as Azerbaijan.

5. Artsakh

Artsakh is; or perhaps more aptly was, an Armenian state--not recognized by any other state--within the borders of the former Azerbaijan SSR. It emerged out of the First Nagorno-Karabakh War, one of the nastier conflicts resulting from the breakup of the Soviet Union. In short; the Soviet Union put an ethnically Armenian area in the Azerbaijan SSR that was semi-autonomous; called Nagorno-Karabakh, that Armenians viewed as rightfully part of Armenia. When the Soviet Union broke apart--even before it had done so completely--Armenia and Azerbaijan were already engaging in low-level fighting; and in scenes reminiscent of the Partition of 1949, Azeris living in Armenia fled the country--as did their Armenian counterparts in Azerbaijan.

Then, as the Soviet Union properly collapsed, both sides geared up for war. The Soviet Union had left quite a lot of stuff lying around as it collapsed; and Azerbaijan ended up with the bulk of it due to the disposition of Soviet forces. Both sides bought black-market weapons and armaments from conscript soldiers in the confusion of the the collapse. And then they went to war.

The result was a years-long, brutal conflict that killed tens of thousands of people--in two relatively small countries--and, despite Azerbaijan having more equipment, more men, and more foreign support--from Turkey, which never had much love for Armenia and was building ties with the Turkic peoples of Central Asia [of whom the Azeris are one], and from Israel, who saw a potential new partner in a dangerous region. Armenia had some support from Russia, largely due to connections through a shared religion, nervousness about the Turks, and feelings among the Russian elite that were more sympathetic to Armenia.

However, against all odds, the Armenians emerged victorious. In 1994, with the Armenians poised to break out of the mountains and attack the heart of Azerbaijan, and Azerbaijan exhausted from years of war, a cease-fire was signed.

From that day onwards; both nations began preparing for the return of conflict. It was only a matter of time. Armenia had not only taken Nagorno-Karabakh, they had taken large portions of ethnically Azeri land as well, including sites that were of paramount cultural and historical importance to the Azeris. They also engaged in ethnic cleansing, and to this day Azerbaijan, at least nominally, has hundreds of thousands of refugees from the conflict.

In the intervening years, however, things changed. In particular; Turkey rose to a newfound regional prominence, and Azerbaijan, though being careful to always maintain a measure of proximity to Russia sufficient to not cause its rulers concern, slowly drifted towards Turkey and Israel. Ties with Turkey stretched to a mutual defense agreement. Ties to Israel included offering potential basing in Azerbaijan, the sale of oil [not many nations would sell Israel oil until recently] along with shadowy intelligence connections--Mossad operations in Iran are believed to be launched out of Azerbaijan [for a number of reasons, Iran and Azerbaijan don't like each other very much]. And Azerbaijan, noted for its oil reserves as far back as the Second World War; collected large revenues which it sunk into military spending. Meanwhile, Armenia, despite making large purchases from Russia, fell behind in military readiness, and in its economy--not helped by the fact that, because of a mix of pro-Azeri Turkish policy and Armenian distrust and even hatred of Turkey [thanks to the fact that Turkey argues over whether even discussing "those unfortunate events of 1915" is okay], the Turkish border remains closed--meaning that trade can only go via Iran or Georgia.

Meanwhile, the peace process dithered on, with occasional small skirmishes breaking out. The regular theme was that Armenia would hand over the Azeri-majority [now unoccupied] territory it captured, and Nagorno-Karabakh would, in return, be recognized, or become autonomous, or something of the sort. The Minsk Group led these efforts; though not particularly well--all three members had significant biases. The Russians were pro-Armenian though not anti-Azeri [mostly, they were in favor of the status quo, which favored them], the French were pro-Armenian [on account of disliking Turkey and having a politically influential Armenian population much like the Cubans in Miami], and the Americans were sufficiently pro-Azeri that they created manuals like this and defending the fictional nation of Atropia [which just happens to be an oil-rich, pro-Western autocracy that is exactly where Azerbaijan is] against foreign invaders became a meme among the US military--you can buy "Atropia Veteran" swag, and it became so transparent that Europeans complained about "defending autocrats" in the exercise and Turkish officials complained that "Limaria" [Armenia] included areas that should have been in "Kemalia" [Turkey].

Ultimately, by 2020, a few things had changed. After victory in clashes in 2016, and purchases of new arms, Azerbaijan was confident that it wouldn't fail due to military incompetence like last time. Armenia had elected a new leader, more distant from Russia [especially since he came to power in a 'color revolution'], complicating any Russian response. Not only that, but Armenia had begun settling in territory that was formerly ethnically Azeri, and had attempted to rewrite history so the land they had taken was somehow always Armenian, making a land swap less tenable--especially after the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh was renamed to the Republic of Artsakh. Domestic protests about a lack of action on the issue further spurred action, but perhaps the most decisive factor was Turkey's drone-fueled rampage and Russia's no good, very bad year elsewhere [from the domestic economy to the chaos in Belarus].

So at the end of September 2020, they went to war.

6. Curb-stomp battle

Course of the conflict by Liveuamap

Initially, the war looked like it was serious, but not out of line with previous escalations. Azeri and Armenian forces clashed along the border--but then Azerbaijan made a major incursion along the southern border, which is flat and nearly completely unpopulated, and through the rest of the war pushed through there until they ultimately cut the single road leading to Nagorno-Karabakh from Armenia when they recaptured Shusha. At that point, Armenia capitulated.

While the exact details of why this happened are of relatively little importance, what does matter is what drones did. Armenian air defenses proved completely defenseless against the onslaught of Azerbaijan, with even larger and heavier systems like Russia's S-300 being destroyed by Turkish-manufactured drones. Even the An-2, a literal Soviet 1940s cropdusting biplane, proved lethal to air defenses when rigged with the right equipment.

As a result, Azerbaijan swept across Armenian forces with drones, targeting anything larger than a bicycle, destroying tanks, artillery pieces, and surface-to-air-missile systems alike. While initially Azerbaijan didn't advance, they pursued a strategy of attrition against Armenian forces--and were quite successful at it. Nowhere was safe for Armenian infantry--even miles behind the front, drones were still a risk. After a few weeks of this, Azerbaijan began their offensive. This was interrupted by several ceasefires, the most successful of which lasted around fifteen minutes.

In the meantime, Armenia and Azerbaijan engaged in tactics reminiscent of the War of the Cities. Armenians made rocket attacks on Azeri civilian targets, and even ballistic missile strikes with SCUDs and Tokchas against Ganja, an Azeri metropolis, with later attacks also taking place against Barda and other targets. Virtually all sources agree that Armenia conducted a deliberate policy of targeting civilians in retaliation from the advance of Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijan, meanwhile, adopted what I would characterize as a callous indifference to Armenian civilian lives. We have relatively little documentation on exactly what they did, but it is likely that major war crimes were committed against Armenian prisoners. However, we do know that rockets and cluster munitions were used against civilian areas of Stepanakert. By and large, though, Azerbaijan's government is mindful of global sensitivities and would rather avoid making itself a bigger villain than it has to be.

7. Ending

By the first week of November, despite appearances, it had become clear Armenia was losing. While they still held most of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, Azeri forces were rapidly closing in on the major road [1 of 2] that connects Nagorno-Karabakh to Armenia proper. Armenian forces were demoralized and lacked heavy equipment. Civilians fled; with most of the population of Stepanakert, the capital of Nagorno-Karabakh, fleeing before the road was cut. Analysts had few doubts that, within another few weeks, before winter arrived, Azerbaijan could take all of Nagorno-Karabakh.

But fortunately, several factors coincided. First, Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan realized the situation Armenia was in, and presumably began talking about peace. President [and resident dynastic autocrat] of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev had achieved most of the territorial gains he wanted, but as far as I can tell had little to no interest in making his country notorious for what would surely be the ethnic cleansing of tens of thousands of people. Russia was interested in making sure that any deal possible happened that could salvage its privileged position in the region. And since Azerbaijan had acheived its major goals, Turkey was alright with suing for peace as well.

The final impetus was provided by the Azeris taking Shusha, the second-largest city in the region [and one of tremendous cultural importance to the Azeri people], and, at around the same time, the Azeris accidentally shooting down a Russian attack helicopter on the border.

The ultimate deal was incredibly favorable to the Azeris, which should be expected given that they could have taken the rest of the region with relative ease. It involved Armenia vacating most of Nagorno-Karabakh and all the ethnically Azeri land they had taken, bar the Lachin Corridor. Of particular importance to Turkey, and to the Azeri economy, was that the deal created a corridor through Armenia to Azerbaijan's western exclave, and hence to Turkey, for transit. While still an indirect route, it is nowhere near as difficult as traveling around through Georgia. Russia also got to pretend like it still mattered by deploying a few thousand peacekeepers for what seems likely to be a limited time.

Azerbaijan celebrated. As far as anyone was concerned, they had won. Turkey also celebrated--they had, in their view, not only supported the Turkic Azeris in a victory against the Armenians, but also won a battle against Russia to see whom was the real dominant power in the Caucasus. Russia didn't celebrate, but felt that it had at least maintained some sort of influence in the region when initially things looked like they might ultimately sideline Russia entirely. Armenia, however, unsurprisingly, was enraged, and rioters smashed government buildings and forced Prime Minister Pashinyan into hiding; however, it looks like the Armenians realize that they really had no chance of winning and aren't going to resume the conflict.

8. What Now?

In a strange twist of fate, there is some speculation that peace is now more likely than it was before the war. In particular, some think that Turkey will be interested in finally coming to terms with the Armenians and opening its border with Armenia--which would significantly reduce Russian influence in the region and promote economic development--and some speculate that Azerbaijan may now be willing to make a lasting peace deal since it has, essentially, all that it wants.

This war chronicles one of this year's themes--the decline of Russia, and rise of Turkey. I would expect to see more conflict between them in the future, and I'd expect to see, in a strange historical irony, Turkey coming out on top. Russia has not had a very good year at all and I think this conflict is really just the latest example of how far it has fallen in its military capabilities and political influence despite what Putin shows off.

Small drones are now the obsession of every military planner, as is trying to figure out a way to shoot them down reliably. Already a number of nations have expressed interest in buying the Turkish drones that had such a decisive impact on these conflicts. It seems likely that this will especially transform lower-end conflicts where foreign powers can now intervene without risking more than a few million dollars in equipment, and where local powers can now field their own drones and precision-guided munitions while being, for the moment, largely unopposed.

Whatever the ultimate impact, though, it is undeniable that this change in warfare has been one of the more important and interesting bits of 2020 thus far, though it's behind some truly massive things. Unlike the coronavirus, or Donald Trump, however, these trends are probably with us to stay for a while. I don't think we've heard the last of the drone-warfare revolution yet.
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2020.11.20 18:10 financeoptimum The Rothschilds - A Rational Overview

No discussion of Upper Class Billionaires would be complete without the Rothschilds.
A family dynasty synonymous with wealth.
But what is the true extent of this wealth?
Just how powerful is this relatively secretive family?
With various theories circulating on the Internet, can we reach a rational consensus?
Part 1/6 - The Architect?
Mayer Amschel is often cited as the founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
In 1770, he married Guttle Schnapper. This boosted Mayer's wealth, as he received a generous dowry of 2,400 gulden from her father (who worked as a court agent).
Mayer wouldn't forget this and, in his will, outlined strict, controversial provisions regarding Rothschild marriages.
Mayer was concerned that the family's fortune would be diluted as it grew through marriages. As such, his will "barred female descendants from any direct inheritance" and, in effect, provided incentives for intermarriages. Four of his granddaughters married grandsons (first cousins), while one married her uncle.
Now, is this really a tale of Started from the Bottom?
Or, much like Drake, is there a rich Uncle involved?
To answer that, we need to ask: who came before Mayer Amschel?
Well, his father, Amschel Moses had a business in goods-trading and currency exchange.
He was a personal supplier of collectable coins to the Prince of Hesse.
We'll come back to that shortly...
We know little about Mayer Amschel's grandparents and more remote ancestors.
The family did previously use the name "Bauer" - in fact the name Rothschild didn't really stick until Mayer Amschel's generation came along.
Benjamin Franklin once observed that in life only death and taxes are inevitable; they are also virtually the only things about which records survive for the earliest Rothschilds.
The most we can say about the early Rothschilds is that they were relatively successful small businessmen dealing in, among other things, cloth.
Five years before his death in 1585, Isak zum roten Schild had a taxable income of 2,700 gulden.
A century later his great-grandson Kalman, a moneychanger who also dealt in wool and silk, had a taxable income more than twice as large.
It seems that his son (Mayer Amschel's grandfather Moses) successfully developed his father's business, continuing the process of steady social ascent by marrying, successively, the daughters of a tax collector and of a doctor.
With the help of relatives, Mayer Amschel secured an apprenticeship under Jacob Wolf Oppenheimer, at the banking firm of Simon Wolf Oppenheimer in Hanover, in 1757, where he acquired useful knowledge in foreign trade and currency exchange, before returning to his brothers' business in Frankfurt in 1763.
He became a dealer in rare coins and, just as his father had done previously, won the patronage of the Prince of Hesse.
His coin business grew to include a number of princely patrons, and then expanded through the provision of financial services to the Prince of Hesse.
In 1769, Mayer Amschel gained the title of "Court Agent", managing the finances of the immensely wealthy Prince of Hesse who in 1785 became William IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel, and inherited one of the largest fortunes in Europe at the time.

Part 2/6 - The Five Arrows
The Rothschild coat-of-arms includes a fist clutching five arrows, a reference to Mayer's five sons.
At the turn of the nineteenth century, Mayer sent his sons to establish banks in Frankfurt, Naples, Vienna, France, and London.
The release of the "Five Arrows" symbolises strength through unity, and marks the beginning of the Rothschild's global banking dynasty.

Part 3/6 - Nathan Mayer
Napoleon was on the march through Europe, and William gave his fortune to Mayer Amschel to protect it from being seized by Napoleon.
Mayer was able to hide the money by sending it to his son Nathan in London.
The London Rothschild office had to spend it somewhere, and loaned it to the British Crown, in order to finance the British armies fighting Napoleon in Spain and Portugal in the Peninsular War.
These savvy investments of William's money paid off handsomely, netting sufficient interest that their own wealth eventually exceeded that of their original nest-egg client (the nest-egg client who had inherited the largest fortune in Europe remember).
This marked the birth of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
Historian Niall Ferguson outlines the sheer scale of the Rothschild family's operations:
"For most of the nineteenth century, N M Rothschild was part of the biggest bank in the world which dominated the international bond market. For a contemporary equivalent, one has to imagine a merger between Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, J P Morgan and probably Goldman Sachs too — as well, perhaps, as the International Monetary Fund, given the nineteen-century Rothschild's role in stabilizing the finances of numerous governments."
Nathan pioneered the ingenious strategy of lending to governments during wartime.
This tactic, used when Nathan funded Wellington's army in 1814, is the primary cause of the explosion in the family's wealth during what proved to be 150 years of nearly chronic warfare.
Of course, the Rothschilds played no role in instigating said conflicts...
Continual war in Europe created excellent opportunities to profit from smuggling scarce consumer goods past military blockades. Since the Rothschilds often financed both sides in a conflict and were known to have great political influence, the mere sight of the red shield on a leather pouch, a carriage, or a ship's flag was sufficient to insure that the messenger or his cargo could pass through check points in either direction. This immunity allowed them to deal in a thriving black market for cotton goods, yarn, tobacco, coffee, sugar, and indigo; and they moved freely through the borders of Germany, Scandinavia, Holland, Spain, England, and France.
This government protection was one of those indirect benefits that generated commercial profits - of course they were also getting interest on the underlying government loans.
Even the friendliest of biographers admit that, for more than two centuries, the House of Rothschild profited handsomely from wars and economic collapses, the very occasions on which others sustained the greatest losses.

Part 4/6 - Nat
The Rothschilds tend to keep tend to keep out of the limelight.
One of the family’s grande dames said you should only appear in the newspapers on three occasions: hatch (aka birth), match (aka marriage) and dispatch (aka death).
Therefore, this makes the odd flamboyant Rothschild stand out even more.
One that springs to mind is Nat Rothschild (Jacob Rothschild's son) and ex Bullingdon Club member who in 2016 married former Page 3 model Loretta Basey.
According to Forbes, Nat's net worth was $1 billion in 2012, but he lost his official billionaire status the next year.
However, according to an article in the Observer in 2000, Nat's actual inheritance is hidden in a series of trusts in Switzerland and rumoured to be worth £40BN (i.e. $60 billion.)

Part 5/6 - Ghislaine Maxwell?
Alan Dershoiwtz, who once defended Jeffrey Epstein in court, writes:
"My wife and I were introduced to Ghislaine Maxwell by Sir Evelyn and Lady Lynne de Rothschild..."
Evelyn de Rothschild and his wife Lynn were introduced by none other than Henry Kissinger at the 1998 Bilderberg Group conference in Scotland. They married two years later, and were invited to spend their honeymoon at the White House by the Clintons.
I have an idea!
Let's type Rothschild into the WikiLeaks Hilary Clinton Email Archive.
Nice. 69 results. Let's check out the intercourse between Hilary and Lynn.
How about this one - Info For You on the 25th of September 2010?
In that email chain, we have the following message from Hilary to Lynne.
"Lynn,
I was trying to reach you to tell you and Teddy that I asked Tony Blair to go to Israel as part of our full court press on keeping the Middle East negotiations going. He told me that he had a commitment in Aspen with you two and the conference, but after we talked, he decided to go and asked me to tell you. He is very sorry, obviously, but I'm grateful that he accepted my request. I hope you all understand and give him a raincheck...Let me know what penance I owe you. And please explain to Teddy. As ever, H"

Part 6/6 - True Extent
We come to the kicker: what is true extent of the Rothschild's wealth?
Of course, it is impossible to pin down an exact number because of the level of diversification of their wealth and the secrecy with which the offshore infrastructure operates.
After all, we know what happens to those that try to expose this shady world.
Worryingly, Panama is only one of more than 90 financial secrecy jurisdictions around the world today, compared with just a dozen or so in the early 1970s.
Together, as of 2015, they hold at least $24 trillion to $36 trillion in anonymous private financial wealth, most of which belong to the top 0.1 percent of the planet’s wealthiest.
Of course, none of this offshore wealth belongs to the Rothschilds...
In 2003, the Sunday Times identified Jacob Rothschild as the secret holder of the large stake in Yukos that was previously controlled by Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the oil company's chairman.
The size of this stake? £8 billion.
In 2003, the pound dollar exchange rate was 1.63 - therefore the dollar value of the stake was around $13 billion.
In 2017, Jacob's net worth was pegged at under one billion dollars.
No comment...
According to the Forbes List, the richest individual Rothschild is Benjamin de Rothschild, from the French branch of the family, with a net worth of $1.5BN.
This is despite the fact that Benjamin presides over the Edmond de Rothschild Group, which manages over $175 billion in assets. In August 2019, de Rothschild's family bought out the group's public shareholders.
But yes, of course Benjamin, supposedly the richest Rothschild, is worth 2/3 of Donald Trump.
Speaking of Donald Trump...
Trump at one time owned a quarter of Atlantic City’s casino market.
However, Trump was heavily in debt, and he started missing bond payments on his — and Atlantic City’s — largest casino, the Taj Mahal, in 1990.
Wilbur Ross, then an investment banker working for...you guessed it, Rothschild Inc., helped bondholders negotiate with Trump, whose finances were unraveling. The final deal reduced Trump’s ownership stake in the Taj but left him in charge, and bondholders were unhappy when Ross presented the plan.
“Why did we make a deal with him?” one bondholder asked.
Ross insisted that Trump was worth saving.
“The Trump name is still very much an asset,” he said.
In 2017, Ross became Secretary of Commerce.
Remember folks: Presidents are selected... not elected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wbIGFgxJd0
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2020.11.20 18:09 financeoptimum The Rothschilds - A Rational Overview

No discussion of Upper Class Billionaires would be complete without the Rothschilds.
A family dynasty synonymous with wealth.
But what is the true extent of this wealth?
Just how powerful is this relatively secretive family?
With various theories circulating on the Internet, can we reach a rational consensus?
Part 1/6 - The Architect?
Mayer Amschel is often cited as the founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
In 1770, he married Guttle Schnapper. This boosted Mayer's wealth, as he received a generous dowry of 2,400 gulden from her father (who worked as a court agent).
Mayer wouldn't forget this and, in his will, outlined strict, controversial provisions regarding Rothschild marriages.
Mayer was concerned that the family's fortune would be diluted as it grew through marriages. As such, his will "barred female descendants from any direct inheritance" and, in effect, provided incentives for intermarriages. Four of his granddaughters married grandsons (first cousins), while one married her uncle.
Now, is this really a tale of Started from the Bottom?
Or, much like Drake, is there a rich Uncle involved?
To answer that, we need to ask: who came before Mayer Amschel?
Well, his father, Amschel Moses had a business in goods-trading and currency exchange.
He was a personal supplier of collectable coins to the Prince of Hesse.
We'll come back to that shortly...
We know little about Mayer Amschel's grandparents and more remote ancestors.
The family did previously use the name "Bauer" - in fact the name Rothschild didn't really stick until Mayer Amschel's generation came along.
Benjamin Franklin once observed that in life only death and taxes are inevitable; they are also virtually the only things about which records survive for the earliest Rothschilds.
The most we can say about the early Rothschilds is that they were relatively successful small businessmen dealing in, among other things, cloth.
Five years before his death in 1585, Isak zum roten Schild had a taxable income of 2,700 gulden.
A century later his great-grandson Kalman, a moneychanger who also dealt in wool and silk, had a taxable income more than twice as large.
It seems that his son (Mayer Amschel's grandfather Moses) successfully developed his father's business, continuing the process of steady social ascent by marrying, successively, the daughters of a tax collector and of a doctor.
With the help of relatives, Mayer Amschel secured an apprenticeship under Jacob Wolf Oppenheimer, at the banking firm of Simon Wolf Oppenheimer in Hanover, in 1757, where he acquired useful knowledge in foreign trade and currency exchange, before returning to his brothers' business in Frankfurt in 1763.
He became a dealer in rare coins and, just as his father had done previously, won the patronage of the Prince of Hesse.
His coin business grew to include a number of princely patrons, and then expanded through the provision of financial services to the Prince of Hesse.
In 1769, Mayer Amschel gained the title of "Court Agent", managing the finances of the immensely wealthy Prince of Hesse who in 1785 became William IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel, and inherited one of the largest fortunes in Europe at the time.

Part 2/6 - The Five Arrows
The Rothschild coat-of-arms includes a fist clutching five arrows, a reference to Mayer's five sons.
At the turn of the nineteenth century, Mayer sent his sons to establish banks in Frankfurt, Naples, Vienna, France, and London.
The release of the "Five Arrows" symbolises strength through unity, and marks the beginning of the Rothschild's global banking dynasty.

Part 3/6 - Nathan Mayer
Napoleon was on the march through Europe, and William gave his fortune to Mayer Amschel to protect it from being seized by Napoleon.
Mayer was able to hide the money by sending it to his son Nathan in London.
The London Rothschild office had to spend it somewhere, and loaned it to the British Crown, in order to finance the British armies fighting Napoleon in Spain and Portugal in the Peninsular War.
These savvy investments of William's money paid off handsomely, netting sufficient interest that their own wealth eventually exceeded that of their original nest-egg client (the nest-egg client who had inherited the largest fortune in Europe remember).
This marked the birth of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
Historian Niall Ferguson outlines the sheer scale of the Rothschild family's operations:
"For most of the nineteenth century, N M Rothschild was part of the biggest bank in the world which dominated the international bond market. For a contemporary equivalent, one has to imagine a merger between Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, J P Morgan and probably Goldman Sachs too — as well, perhaps, as the International Monetary Fund, given the nineteen-century Rothschild's role in stabilizing the finances of numerous governments."
Nathan pioneered the ingenious strategy of lending to governments during wartime.
This tactic, used when Nathan funded Wellington's army in 1814, is the primary cause of the explosion in the family's wealth during what proved to be 150 years of nearly chronic warfare.
Of course, the Rothschilds played no role in instigating said conflicts...
Continual war in Europe created excellent opportunities to profit from smuggling scarce consumer goods past military blockades. Since the Rothschilds often financed both sides in a conflict and were known to have great political influence, the mere sight of the red shield on a leather pouch, a carriage, or a ship's flag was sufficient to insure that the messenger or his cargo could pass through check points in either direction. This immunity allowed them to deal in a thriving black market for cotton goods, yarn, tobacco, coffee, sugar, and indigo; and they moved freely through the borders of Germany, Scandinavia, Holland, Spain, England, and France.
This government protection was one of those indirect benefits that generated commercial profits - of course they were also getting interest on the underlying government loans.
Even the friendliest of biographers admit that, for more than two centuries, the House of Rothschild profited handsomely from wars and economic collapses, the very occasions on which others sustained the greatest losses.

Part 4/6 - Nat
The Rothschilds tend to keep tend to keep out of the limelight.
One of the family’s grande dames said you should only appear in the newspapers on three occasions: hatch (aka birth), match (aka marriage) and dispatch (aka death).
Therefore, this makes the odd flamboyant Rothschild stand out even more.
One that springs to mind is Nat Rothschild (Jacob Rothschild's son) and ex Bullingdon Club member who in 2016 married former Page 3 model Loretta Basey.
According to Forbes, Nat's net worth was $1 billion in 2012, but he lost his official billionaire status the next year.
However, according to an article in the Observer in 2000, Nat's actual inheritance is hidden in a series of trusts in Switzerland and rumoured to be worth £40BN (i.e. $60 billion.)

Part 5/6 - Ghislaine Maxwell?
Alan Dershoiwtz, who once defended Jeffrey Epstein in court, writes:
"My wife and I were introduced to Ghislaine Maxwell by Sir Evelyn and Lady Lynne de Rothschild..."
Evelyn de Rothschild and his wife Lynn were introduced by none other than Henry Kissinger at the 1998 Bilderberg Group conference in Scotland. They married two years later, and were invited to spend their honeymoon at the White House by the Clintons.
I have an idea!
Let's type Rothschild into the WikiLeaks Hilary Clinton Email Archive.
Nice. 69 results. Let's check out the intercourse between Hilary and Lynn.
How about this one - Info For You on the 25th of September 2010?
In that email chain, we have the following message from Hilary to Lynne.
"Lynn,
I was trying to reach you to tell you and Teddy that I asked Tony Blair to go to Israel as part of our full court press on keeping the Middle East negotiations going. He told me that he had a commitment in Aspen with you two and the conference, but after we talked, he decided to go and asked me to tell you. He is very sorry, obviously, but I'm grateful that he accepted my request. I hope you all understand and give him a raincheck...Let me know what penance I owe you. And please explain to Teddy. As ever, H"

Part 6/6 - True Extent
We come to the kicker: what is true extent of the Rothschild's wealth?
Of course, it is impossible to pin down an exact number because of the level of diversification of their wealth and the secrecy with which the offshore infrastructure operates.
After all, we know what happens to those that try to expose this shady world.
Worryingly, Panama is only one of more than 90 financial secrecy jurisdictions around the world today, compared with just a dozen or so in the early 1970s.
Together, as of 2015, they hold at least $24 trillion to $36 trillion in anonymous private financial wealth, most of which belong to the top 0.1 percent of the planet’s wealthiest.
Of course, none of this offshore wealth belongs to the Rothschilds...
In 2003, the Sunday Times identified Jacob Rothschild as the secret holder of the large stake in Yukos that was previously controlled by Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the oil company's chairman.
The size of this stake? £8 billion.
In 2003, the pound dollar exchange rate was 1.63 - therefore the dollar value of the stake was around $13 billion.
In 2017, Jacob's net worth was pegged at under one billion dollars.
No comment...
According to the Forbes List, the richest individual Rothschild is Benjamin de Rothschild, from the French branch of the family, with a net worth of $1.5BN.
This is despite the fact that Benjamin presides over the Edmond de Rothschild Group, which manages over $175 billion in assets. In August 2019, de Rothschild's family bought out the group's public shareholders.
But yes, of course Benjamin, supposedly the richest Rothschild, is worth 2/3 of Donald Trump.
Speaking of Donald Trump...
Trump at one time owned a quarter of Atlantic City’s casino market.
However, Trump was heavily in debt, and he started missing bond payments on his — and Atlantic City’s — largest casino, the Taj Mahal, in 1990.
Wilbur Ross, then an investment banker working for...you guessed it, Rothschild Inc., helped bondholders negotiate with Trump, whose finances were unraveling. The final deal reduced Trump’s ownership stake in the Taj but left him in charge, and bondholders were unhappy when Ross presented the plan.
“Why did we make a deal with him?” one bondholder asked.
Ross insisted that Trump was worth saving.
“The Trump name is still very much an asset,” he said.
In 2017, Ross became Secretary of Commerce.
Remember folks: Presidents are selected... not elected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wbIGFgxJd0
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2020.11.20 17:39 financeoptimum The Rothschilds - A Rational Overview

No discussion of Upper Class Billionaires would be complete without the Rothschilds.
A family dynasty synonymous with wealth.
But what is the true extent of this wealth?
Just how powerful is this relatively secretive family?
With various theories circulating on the Internet, can we reach a rational consensus?
Part 1/6 - The Architect?
Mayer Amschel is often cited as the founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
In 1770, he married Guttle Schnapper. This boosted Mayer's wealth, as he received a generous dowry of 2,400 gulden from her father (who worked as a court agent).
Mayer wouldn't forget this and, in his will, outlined strict, controversial provisions regarding Rothschild marriages.
Mayer was concerned that the family's fortune would be diluted as it grew through marriages. As such, his will "barred female descendants from any direct inheritance" and, in effect, provided incentives for intermarriages. Four of his granddaughters married grandsons (first cousins), while one married her uncle.
Now, is this really a tale of Started from the Bottom?
Or, much like Drake, is there a rich Uncle involved?
To answer that, we need to ask: who came before Mayer Amschel?
Well, his father, Amschel Moses had a business in goods-trading and currency exchange.
He was a personal supplier of collectable coins to the Prince of Hesse.
We'll come back to that shortly...
We know little about Mayer Amschel's grandparents and more remote ancestors.
The family did previously use the name "Bauer" - in fact the name Rothschild didn't really stick until Mayer Amschel's generation came along.
Benjamin Franklin once observed that in life only death and taxes are inevitable; they are also virtually the only things about which records survive for the earliest Rothschilds.
The most we can say about the early Rothschilds is that they were relatively successful small businessmen dealing in, among other things, cloth.
Five years before his death in 1585, Isak zum roten Schild had a taxable income of 2,700 gulden.
A century later his great-grandson Kalman, a moneychanger who also dealt in wool and silk, had a taxable income more than twice as large.
It seems that his son (Mayer Amschel's grandfather Moses) successfully developed his father's business, continuing the process of steady social ascent by marrying, successively, the daughters of a tax collector and of a doctor.
With the help of relatives, Mayer Amschel secured an apprenticeship under Jacob Wolf Oppenheimer, at the banking firm of Simon Wolf Oppenheimer in Hanover, in 1757, where he acquired useful knowledge in foreign trade and currency exchange, before returning to his brothers' business in Frankfurt in 1763.
He became a dealer in rare coins and, just as his father had done previously, won the patronage of the Prince of Hesse.
His coin business grew to include a number of princely patrons, and then expanded through the provision of financial services to the Prince of Hesse.
In 1769, Mayer Amschel gained the title of "Court Agent", managing the finances of the immensely wealthy Prince of Hesse who in 1785 became William IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel, and inherited one of the largest fortunes in Europe at the time.

Part 2/6 - The Five Arrows
The Rothschild coat-of-arms includes a fist clutching five arrows, a reference to Mayer's five sons.
At the turn of the nineteenth century, Mayer sent his sons to establish banks in Frankfurt, Naples, Vienna, France, and London.
The release of the "Five Arrows" symbolises strength through unity, and marks the beginning of the Rothschild's global banking dynasty.

Part 3/6 - Nathan Mayer
Napoleon was on the march through Europe, and William gave his fortune to Mayer Amschel to protect it from being seized by Napoleon.
Mayer was able to hide the money by sending it to his son Nathan in London.
The London Rothschild office had to spend it somewhere, and loaned it to the British Crown, in order to finance the British armies fighting Napoleon in Spain and Portugal in the Peninsular War.
These savvy investments of William's money paid off handsomely, netting sufficient interest that their own wealth eventually exceeded that of their original nest-egg client (the nest-egg client who had inherited the largest fortune in Europe remember).
This marked the birth of the Rothschild banking dynasty.
Historian Niall Ferguson outlines the sheer scale of the Rothschild family's operations:
"For most of the nineteenth century, N M Rothschild was part of the biggest bank in the world which dominated the international bond market. For a contemporary equivalent, one has to imagine a merger between Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, J P Morgan and probably Goldman Sachs too — as well, perhaps, as the International Monetary Fund, given the nineteen-century Rothschild's role in stabilizing the finances of numerous governments."
Nathan pioneered the ingenious strategy of lending to governments during wartime.
This tactic, used when Nathan funded Wellington's army in 1814, is the primary cause of the explosion in the family's wealth during what proved to be 150 years of nearly chronic warfare.
Of course, the Rothschilds played no role in instigating said conflicts...
Continual war in Europe created excellent opportunities to profit from smuggling scarce consumer goods past military blockades. Since the Rothschilds often financed both sides in a conflict and were known to have great political influence, the mere sight of the red shield on a leather pouch, a carriage, or a ship's flag was sufficient to insure that the messenger or his cargo could pass through check points in either direction. This immunity allowed them to deal in a thriving black market for cotton goods, yarn, tobacco, coffee, sugar, and indigo; and they moved freely through the borders of Germany, Scandinavia, Holland, Spain, England, and France.
This government protection was one of those indirect benefits that generated commercial profits - of course they were also getting interest on the underlying government loans.
Even the friendliest of biographers admit that, for more than two centuries, the House of Rothschild profited handsomely from wars and economic collapses, the very occasions on which others sustained the greatest losses.

Part 4/6 - Nat
The Rothschilds tend to keep tend to keep out of the limelight.
One of the family’s grande dames said you should only appear in the newspapers on three occasions: hatch (aka birth), match (aka marriage) and dispatch (aka death).
Therefore, this makes the odd flamboyant Rothschild stand out even more.
One that springs to mind is Nat Rothschild (Jacob Rothschild's son) and ex Bullingdon Club member who in 2016 married former Page 3 model Loretta Basey.
According to Forbes, Nat's net worth was $1 billion in 2012, but he lost his official billionaire status the next year.
However, according to an article in the Observer in 2000, Nat's actual inheritance is hidden in a series of trusts in Switzerland and rumoured to be worth £40BN (i.e. $60 billion.)

Part 5/6 - Ghislaine Maxwell?
Alan Dershoiwtz, who once defended Jeffrey Epstein in court, writes:
"My wife and I were introduced to Ghislaine Maxwell by Sir Evelyn and Lady Lynne de Rothschild..."
Evelyn de Rothschild and his wife Lynn were introduced by none other than Henry Kissinger at the 1998 Bilderberg Group conference in Scotland. They married two years later, and were invited to spend their honeymoon at the White House by the Clintons.
I have an idea!
Let's type Rothschild into the WikiLeaks Hilary Clinton Email Archive.
Nice. 69 results. Let's check out the intercourse between Hilary and Lynn.
How about this one - Info For You on the 25th of September 2010?
In that email chain, we have the following message from Hilary to Lynne.
"Lynn,
I was trying to reach you to tell you and Teddy that I asked Tony Blair to go to Israel as part of our full court press on keeping the Middle East negotiations going. He told me that he had a commitment in Aspen with you two and the conference, but after we talked, he decided to go and asked me to tell you. He is very sorry, obviously, but I'm grateful that he accepted my request. I hope you all understand and give him a raincheck...Let me know what penance I owe you. And please explain to Teddy. As ever, H"

Part 6/6 - True Extent
We come to the kicker: what is true extent of the Rothschild's wealth?
Of course, it is impossible to pin down an exact number because of the level of diversification of their wealth and the secrecy with which the offshore infrastructure operates.
After all, we know what happens to those that try to expose this shady world.
Worryingly, Panama is only one of more than 90 financial secrecy jurisdictions around the world today, compared with just a dozen or so in the early 1970s.
Together, as of 2015, they hold at least $24 trillion to $36 trillion in anonymous private financial wealth, most of which belong to the top 0.1 percent of the planet’s wealthiest.
Of course, none of this offshore wealth belongs to the Rothschilds...
In 2003, the Sunday Times identified Jacob Rothschild as the secret holder of the large stake in Yukos that was previously controlled by Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the oil company's chairman.
The size of this stake? £8 billion.
In 2003, the pound dollar exchange rate was 1.63 - therefore the dollar value of the stake was around $13 billion.
In 2017, Jacob's net worth was pegged at under one billion dollars.
No comment...
According to the Forbes List, the richest individual Rothschild is Benjamin de Rothschild, from the French branch of the family, with a net worth of $1.5BN.
This is despite the fact that Benjamin presides over the Edmond de Rothschild Group, which manages over $175 billion in assets. In August 2019, de Rothschild's family bought out the group's public shareholders.
But yes, of course Benjamin, supposedly the richest Rothschild, is worth 2/3 of Donald Trump.
Speaking of Donald Trump...
Trump at one time owned a quarter of Atlantic City’s casino market.
However, Trump was heavily in debt, and he started missing bond payments on his — and Atlantic City’s — largest casino, the Taj Mahal, in 1990.
Wilbur Ross, then an investment banker working for...you guessed it, Rothschild Inc., helped bondholders negotiate with Trump, whose finances were unraveling. The final deal reduced Trump’s ownership stake in the Taj but left him in charge, and bondholders were unhappy when Ross presented the plan.
“Why did we make a deal with him?” one bondholder asked.
Ross insisted that Trump was worth saving.
“The Trump name is still very much an asset,” he said.
In 2017, Ross became Secretary of Commerce.
Remember folks: Presidents are selected... not elected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wbIGFgxJd0
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2020.11.20 03:41 thisisderpville [Online] [GMT] [5e] [Homebrew] Looking for a couple of LGBTQ+ friendly players that would be up for a streamed/recorded RP-forward series of one-shots that lead into a long-term campaign

Hi there!
I am about to start a long-term campaign on Sunday Evenings at 7PM GMT in January that will be recorded for a podcast and will be streamed on Twitch. In the meantime, the group and I are doing a series of one-shots at the same time to play around with some characters and see if they mesh well with each other. That being said, we are looking for 2 players that are LGBTQ+ friendly, up to making some internet friends during these times, left-leaning (that is pretty much all of us), laidback, creative, and comfortable with being in-character. The more friendly the better, as we all in the group have grown close to each other; so if this interests you, you're in the right place.
Now about those one-shots, basically the group acts as level 5 Psychic Caterers. Attending high-class parties around the steam-punk world of Lunomoor, serving Hors d'Oeuvres and investigating paranormal activities. These one-shots tie into the plot of the campaign as well. As far as what is available to you, basically whatever you can find on DnDBeyond is at your disposal; this will be the same thing for the campaign as well!
NOW ABOUT THE WORLD! You can find the map at Talesoflunomoor, and here is a summary of each territory located within the world:
Lugnhaven: starting area for most of the campaigns, used to be the dwarven/elvish lands but is now more accepting of other races due to an agreement with Thete. Socialist country and emphasizes on giving back to the people if you are able to.
Thete: Theocracy. Ruled by a religion known as Thesis that believes their god has made them as powerful as they are now but has an emphasis on peace. Known as the mercenary country due to their power and often an ally you want by your side when you’re in trouble. Will defend and aid you in wars but will never start them.
Eskos: Inspired by France during the French Revolution. Under rule by a Loxodon family with the current one named King Busul IV. Loxodons are considered the ruling race here as all others are involved in government but are never in power. Just representatives of their town or regions. Currently in the midst of starting up a revolution.
Wisps: Peaceful. Stand offish if you pry but friendly at first. Have had many wars of countries trying to take their land but all attempts lead to failures with the troops that attempt to claim it disappear and no one knows why.
Whi Tribes: Newest country of them all that formed a year ago. Ran mostly by Orcs, it is a East meets west culture (inspired by JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure) where there is Shoguns and an emperor but society’s fashion is Victorian era. Deals in slavery in order to fund their growing military. The most aggressive of the countries and will stop at nothing to achieve their goal.
Skipig: 2nd newly formed country that was formed out of the most recent war that happened. Treats their general (named General Skipig, not in power but still alive somewhere) that saved them like a god, they ask their people aggressively to give back to their government. Nips all rebellions in the butt as soon as a rumor breaks out about them. The second largest country and constantly having conflicts with the first. Totalitarian indeed.
Botham: The largest country and an empire. Victorian England basically with its family in power being the Botham family. The most land greedy and will stop at nothing to succeed, notorious in Espionage, blackmail, and bribery. Has agents all over Lunomoor and will intimidate as much as possible. The most wealthy and the second most powerful army behind Thete.
Unamar: The smallest and yet the most technologically and scientifically advanced in all of the world. The white land underneath them used to belong to them but were pressured by Skipig and Botham to give it up. Their capital city is called Myths due to their hunger for knowledge on everything. Peaceful for a reason is what they think.
Multiple campaigns are currently being played in this world as well. So the campaign will have an effect on others as well.
NOW TO THE 3-4 YEAR LONG CAMPAIGN!! The premise of the campaign starts out as bodyguards who are personnel of Lord Malcolm, whom is one of the Princes to the Botham Royal Family. They attend parties, events, dates, etc; wherever Malcolm Botham goes, they must attend. Something happens, then the group is then pulled in a series of suspenseful events full of political intrigue, subterfuge, espionage, trade secrets, and many others. Super excited to get this one up and going! The characters start at level 1 and like the one-shots, whatever you can find on DnDBeyond is at your disposal!
NOW HOW DO I GET INVOLVED?!?! EASY! Just PM me a lil about yourself and your experience level in DnD! If you already have a character in mind, feel free to share! Let me know if you have any questions and I look forward to hearing from you!
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2020.11.16 23:02 antheadawn Le French Man.

So I was fully prepared for this subreddit to become a place where I would occasionally feel the need to express my troubles and funny stories regarding the males I have chosen to date throughout my twenties, but alas! We have one member in this subreddit which means I can still do these things, but so can others. Today I'd like to talk about my experiences with the illusive, and very frustrating French male. I've lived in Paris for just over a year now so I can only speak on my experiences with dating the Parisian boys, but let me tell you, reddit... They're odd. I'm a 23 year old woman who had lived the entirety of her life outside of my birth country. (Australia, for the curious) My Reddit profile is a place where I am not afraid to have things out in the open, I am an open book with nothing to hide. However, every person I talk about from here on out, I will change their names for their own privacy, and out of decency I suppose because they really ought to be embarrassed by the shit they put me through. Let's begin. There have been a grand total of 8 men that I have 'dated' in this city and dear me the range is vast. From the guy I thought was a spy (???) to the curly haired douchebag who I let break my heart a little bit. Surprising, but also not surprisingly, only five of these men were actually French so maybe I should focus on this. I also won't go in order listing off what went wrong, but I will tell you what I've learned. Number one, the average Parisian/French male in their twenties does NOT like the concept of attachment. I dated someone for about three months before I uttered the words "You know I like you, right?" to which he immediately panicked. In my bed. He went home after this. He managed to come up with a lacklustre "Yes, I like you too, I like spending time with you, I like how I feel when I'm with you, I just don't know if I can commit to anything right now". Ladies and gentlemen, I was not proposing marriage to this 26 year old man who still lives with his parents. I just told him I liked him. Lesson learned. I've learned that they all like cats. I am a dog person through and through and I found this deeply upsetting. I get that you live in this big city and not all apartments can accomodate a dog, but a cat? I think all five out of five of my french boys were cat people, so no wonder they didn't work out. I also am aware that I am currently sharing my opinion on the internet where everyone is a cat person but I needed this to be shared. You're a cat person? Date a Parisian man.
I think this is a good start, two simple lessons. I think I might start writing individual stories on each 'type' I've dated and maybe even go on to talk about the British male, as I attended university across the channel and have a bit to say about them. So do stay posted, I'll try my best to articulate what I experienced.
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2020.11.16 23:00 500scnds [Table] IamA 96 year WW2 veteran, architect, and engineer. Still going strong and have my wits about me! Ask me anything!

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which particular thought kept you going forward during the hardest moments of your fights? what would you advice to someone with 23 years old? Hmm.
When in action, your objective is both defense and aggression. An activity in each is such that you have thoughts for little else. If you're aiming at a target, your one thought is to get it. And at the same time, being prepared for the next one. And you can't be thinking about last night's date or anything else. Your thoughts have to be zero'd in on what you're doing because if your mind wanders, your enemies are going to take advantage of it.
Concerning the future and regardless of your aims and ambitions, your principle activity must be study and education. Education in your chosen endeavor is always good because nobody can take it away from you. I feel that education is the answer to almost anything.
The military also looks favorably on education too. The Kimmell family's first doctor after WW2 was a guy that got all of his training and education through the army and he had the same qualifications and certifications that any civilian doctor would have. In my case, every sailor is given a battery of tests and the navy determines what his qualifications are -- how smart he is, his IQ and so forth. I went to two schools before I ever went to sea. Specialty schools to study fire control equipment -- all electrical type stuff. The big guns were controlled by electric hydraulic systems -- that's what moves them and so forth. The computers and the like were all handled by the fire controlman. It's one of the things that if you get this kind of training in the navy, you can go into almost any electronic-type work after the navy.
My brother Earl went to two universities studying electrical engineering and became an instructor in aviation radar.
You have seen a lot of changes in your 96 years across many countries. What has been your favorite innovation? Not necessarily the best or most amazing, but your favorite. Heaven's sakes. What's an innovation? Uhh
There's been so many changes! I think it would have to be...
See one problem we had being overseas and plans being drawn elsewhere, if there was a change in plans we had to put a guy on an airplane with a roll of drawings and send him there. Now, all you have to do is punch a key on a computer and it goes over there.
I think it would have to be the internet and the ability to transfer information. For all of those projects, for every one of them the design drawings, the conceptual drawings were prepared in the US. In most cases, the development of construction drawings was done by an architectural engineering firm in Europe. We had a firm in Italy, one in Germany, and one in Greece. And all these documents that were used in construction were made out of the country, so any time the job changed the work was done in a foreign country the person had to hand-deliver drawings.
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Let's not forget that for a long time, every technical drawing was completely hand-drawn. They still teach these skills, but today must designers use computer software to perform the same tasks. I've had to hunt down 30-year-old drawings of equipment in a plant. My boss and I spent about half a day just finding it. When organized properly, computers are simply faster than we are, for the same reasons you mentioned. You might not realize how incredibly ready it has become to go from concept to fan drawing today. For a basic design, I can get a working drawing in a matter of minutes. At a previous job, my boss had to compile sales reports from hand-written till reports. After we got an old computer, I helped us move to Excel tracking. It wasn't perfect, but it helped him move from needing a week to compile the report to just a few hours. Needless to say, he was pretty happy with that! Computers are absolutely amazing, and I don't envy the tedium you dealt with during difficult jobs. I've always hand drawn all my plans. In fact, I wouldn't want to necessarily admit this but I've never made a computer drawing. I never learned how to use CAD. I had advanced to the point where I was telling other people what to do with software.
And see even the time preceding the computer drawings, many of the drawings for important projects were put on linen and drawn in ink. I made several of that kind. One was a seating layout for a college basketball stadium in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
What did you do to pass the time on the ship in WW2? Was there time for anything lighthearted or was it work 24/7? Laughs
There was little free time. Our task force was an offensive unit and our free time was occupied mostly by preparation for the next action. What free time was available for the most part the crew would play cards, maybe have a chance to write a letter home, and just shoot the breeze.
From these comments you can assume there was little free time. My task force participated in five invasions and was task force 77.4.3 at the Battle off Samar. Our unit was known as Taffey III.
This invasion was beyond the range of the airforce's land-based airplanes and the navy, through the use of our aircraft carriers, provided air cover for the protection of the land forces during the invasion. In addition, we had surface action with units of the Japanese Navy to prevent them from having access to the invasion beaches and our soldiers.
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Taffy 3!!?? The battle off Samar! OMG!! This is so incredible. And you were fire control! Front row seat for the entire action. Question; Why hasn't a movie been made about this action yet? I've been reading about this since I was 12 years old in the 80s. A lot of people are asking that question actually. Supposedly there has been a script written, but they're searching for funding. I heard about it here or there maybe at one ship reunion.
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Aj_Caramba: Sorry for probably stupid question, but a while ago I read about fight of Taffy 3 with Japanese navy (The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors). Is it the same unit you mentioned? fatruff3: That is the Taffy 3 he mentions. His ship he mentions above is DE-341 the USS Raymond. His ship was a destroyer escort and was part of the actions. It landed some hits on a cruiser and also launched torpedo at the Japanese force. The Raymond was also targeted by the Yamato's secondary batteries at some point in the fight but from what I have read was not hit. I only respond since I would suspect Vern is done with the AMA. If he has anything to add or correct me on feel free! Yep, that's all right.
Yes, this is that unit. In fact, I've met the author of that book.
Do you have a favorite project from your days as an architect? If so, what made it particularly memorable for you? Definitely the monument to Thurgood Marshall. I'm trying to think of how to word the "why" though...
Well... He was the first black justice on the Supreme Court. He was very active in equal rights programs, especially the Supreme Court's overturning of "separate but equal" education which was a culmination of his work prior to being appointed to the Supreme Court.
Here in St. Louis there was the Dred Scott case and it was chaired by Judge Taney and Judge Taney was a resident of Baltimore, MD and so was Thurgood Marshall. The state of Maryland had recognized Taney's accomplishments and the African American community disfavored the attention given to Taney because of the Dred Scott decision. And it was a long process before recognition was given to Thurgood Marshall by approving the funds to build the monument to him.
What was working in Libya like? In the times you spent in Muslim countries, were you ever single and if so what was the nightlife like? I guess as a foreigner, you must consider yourself a guest in the country in which you're working. You have to live by and respect their rules and regulations without sacrificing your freedom. I was able to do this without any problems. Things like their holy day being a different day of the week than your own, it isn't always acceptable that people of Christian faith worship in public there. These things can be done but you must be thoughtful and adapt on how to do it.
The construction in Libya was a challenge because of language difficulties and scarcity of materials and skill of the workforce there. There are solutions to all these issues and they can be overcome. Solving these problems is what makes it interesting in working in a foreign country.
I was never single during the period of my career when I worked in the Middle East. Nightlife in Muslim countries varies depending upon the country and how strict they follow their religious beliefs. Generally speaking, in most countries, nightlife is negligible. Private clubs are available. For the most part, in my situation, fraternization was not advisable for political reasons.
Social relationships were questionable because you never knew the background of the person, who their friends were -- what they believed and so forth.
Whose leadership did you admire serving in the war? Whether it was at the time or now looking back. Thanks! Admiral Nimitz in the Navy and General Patton in the Army.
Nimitz because he took the disaster of the attack at Pearl Harbor and developed and fought the Japanese ending up in our victory.
Patton had a drive for victory that he would absolutely never accept defeat.
What would you tell your younger self? I guess this question almost gets at "what would you do differently if you could talk to your younger self?"
I guess it almost sounds conceited to say that I wouldn't change a thing.
Do you feel superior to people who have already lost their wits by age 77? Or is it more of a “there but for the grace of God” type of situation? Laughs
Hell, I don't feel superior to anyone. I advocate taking life serious, but see the humor in everything.
opinions on biden and trump ? The two names shouldn't be spoken in the same breath. Mr. Trump, I wish him well, but he was never qualified to be president of the United States.
And really for that matter, I don't think Joe Biden is really the right man for the job right now either. We need a younger man with imagination and fire and passion for the job. If you ask me who would that be, I don't know right now. I just have to know that Joe will surround himself with the right team.
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is that bernie sanders ? Maybe, but the stuff he's been preaching for years is what's being adopted now. Bernie has the skills necessary, however we must remember that there's no "I" in team. I think even more important than the one single person running for president is the people they appoint to their cabinet and the people on their team. He needs a team.
Given all that is happening in our world, it's obvious that history repeats itself. What do you think about what is happening and how can we solve it together now that we live in a digital age? Thank you for your service – I am a filmmaker as well as photographer (my username is because I actually photograph cannabis full time for a living), and I have done documentaries and I wish that I could sit and interview you! I bet you have so much knowledge to share with the world. You know what I think about is just pretty much a canned answer. We have to regain our respect in the world, re-establish relationships with our allies, and, by fully understanding the events of history, plan accordingly for the development and maintenance of our weapons systems. We have to establish skilled R&D teams to satisfy our defensive needs.
You grew up in some pretty uncertain and scary times (through a lot of events that take up most of our history classes....) How did you make it through the Great Depression, WW11, the cold War etc. without losing hope? The world today feels like its spinning out of control and only getting worse, but looking back, your years growing up had some major world crises too... so I guess I'm wondering if it felt like the world was ending, how you got through, any advice for this 22 yr old... Well I was a baby during lots of that. I was in kindergarten during the depression. We didn't really realize it was so bad because everyone was in the same boat. We always found something to play with, though it may have been a tin can or something we found around.
Living was tough because money was scarce. Money being scarce it was handy to have a pear tree in the yard because -- well like now if you want a snack you go get a bag of potato ships and a soda or whatever, but back then if we got hungry we'd go out back and get a pear off the tree and that was our snacks. Since pears were a main item on my diet and since now I'm old enough to make choices, I'll always pass up pears. They're still tasty and that kind of thing, but I have a choice and I exercise it and I get me a ripe peach.
In elementary school years, the main item of dress for boys at least seemed to be blue jeans or bib overalls. I was so tired of that attire that once I was in the position where I, as a young adult, I could purchase my own clothes, at that point in time, I scratched blue jeans or denim off my to-do list. So, to this day, I've never worn blue jeans. Though in the navy, we did wear dungarees. But I wasn't satisfied with just the straight-leg military issue dungarees, so I'd take them to the tailor and make them into bell-bottoms. So even then at that time, I never thought high of blue jeans. Back in the periods of hard times during the depression, it was the poor kids that wore the blue jeans.
As far as the political atmosphere in later years and what conditions I experienced like political unrest on a world-scale, I've always been optimistic. I knew my from military experience, that if you worked as a team and had good equipment you can pretty much turn back your foe. And while these activities ran on, revolutions and wars and whatnot, I was concerned and I kept current as to what was happening and I had learned to cope with that. In all honesty, had it been necessary I would've put my uniform on again, but I had already made my commitment to spend the rest of my life doing constructive things rather than destructive like in the war.
I did have one experience in the field where a revolution was taking place because I had been building in the area in Iran when the Shah was overthrown. I had to get my team out of the area, which we just managed to do. But then the world went on and so did we.
So out of all the corvettes you’ve owned, which one has been your favourite? and what’s your thoughts of it going mid-engined? My favorite is the C7. Everything about it. Of all the cars I've had including a Mercedes and the other US manufactured cars, the C7 is the best automobile I've owned. The workmanship, the quality, the fit of the body panels, the sound of the engine. It's just a winner, as far as I'm concerned.
I like the mid-engine. But my hang up is I think the purchasers of the car during the first year's run are really the ones who are testing the machine and if there's any blip here or there it'll be fixed. So I never buy the first year's run.
Given all the crazy things you have seen happen throughout your life, what do you think is our country’s biggest challenge going forward? Also, what’s your favorite WW2-related movie (one that strikes you as the most accurate)? Because of the current conditions and what this country has endured the last 3 years, our major task is to re-establish our position in the world and try to regain the friends that have been lost or at least the friendships that have become tainted. So our biggest challenge is just taking the necessary steps to re-establish our position and try to regain the confidence of our neighbors.
Then on the work that our country and other countries have to do is to deal with the issues of climate change. Here we need to get right with race relations. We have many many problems that we can cure, if we only have the right team in place that's so motivated to do it. I think these are solvable problems and these issues are just a few of the major ones, but there is no problem that if we as a country cannot solve. I think we have the ambition and the ability to push forward and resolve them. It's not going to happen overnight, but we have to dedicate ourselves to it and work at it. I contend we can deal with these issues and that we can resolve and it's based on what I've already experienced. As a country, we fought two wars -- one in Europe and one in the Pacific -- at the same time. Not only that, we as a country provided all our allies with the materials to make war against our enemies. We fed our people, we made the materials, and united with our allies we won the war. If we can do that, we can do many many things. We've proven that when we sent a man to the moon. The space program is amazing all that it's accomplished. What's on the planning table now is amazing, going to outer space, mars, and the like. I firmly believe that all we have to do is review our history and apply the same initiatives to these current problems, then success will be ours and all the countries of the world will be much better for all of it.
As far as the army movies are concerned, I like Patton. I've always been a champion of his and I think that movie was well done, factual. Hollywood didn't play too many games trying to turn it into fiction. There are several Navy pictures. One that represents the destroyers in the submarine warfare is Enemy Down Below, I think. But there's a long list of exceptional war movies. In large part I think it was because I think 5 or so of lots of major motion picture directors were involved in the battles. While it's never possible to show the true horrors of war on film, you can see that good attempts are made to show facts without glamorizing it.
If we want to think about war movies from an entertainment standpoint, there's Kelly's Heroes and then of course there was Mister Roberts. The Midway film was good. I liked Saving Private Ryan.
Thank you for your service. Do you feel like you’ve had enough time? I’m only 36 but time already feels like sand running through my fingers and I can’t seem to grasp enough. Well you know in that regard, I'm 96 but I feel like I'm 39. So I hope there's still some more time for me. Life is interesting and there's more projects that I'd like to do because my mind is still active, I still have a good imagination, and I still know what looks good and what looks bad architecturally -- I don't have to go out and buy a bunch of ivy to cover up what I've done so nobody has to see it.
I hope there's lots more sand in the hourglass, so to speak.
Now, as in that past, I've always been very concerned about my diet, how I spend my time. It's not that I've been fanatical about it -- it's just that it dawned on me that the Lord gives us a good body at birth and it's up to us to take care of it. So I've always been concerned with diet, exercise, and the like. And it's made me what I am now, which I guess is why I feel 39.
So I hope that whatever it is you do, I hope you stop and think about food, what you drink, exercise. All those things in moderation is what it takes -- you don't have to go crazy and become an olympic star or anything like that. You can have a good productive life just by taking care of your body with healthy living.
Who’s your favorite president? Oh heaven's sakes.
Huh.
I think as far as favorite president, I'd have to cast my bet with John Kennedy. Because being a navy man, we have to stand together. I was on a destroyer, he was on a PT boat. He was in the Guadalcanal, I was in the area too later on. He died too young -- we were never able to get a true measure of his contributions to the country. John Kennedy actually chose to serve. Unlike some others who may have had a bone spur or something of the like...
What is your normal diet like? How do you stay healthy? Oh gracious sakes.
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My diet... To a large degree, I've eliminated red meat. I know I'm not a rabbit, but I eat a lot of vegetables. I try to get regular rest. As far as the content of the food I eat, for the most part it's heavy on the vegetable side. Occasionally I'll have me a martini or a bloody mary or two. Because you know with your solid food you have to have some liquid ;).
Now getting back to the serious issues... I have been blessed with good genetics and I have no serious medical problems. The blood pressure and cholesterol, all those things, are as they should be and I have increased my exercise routine. At this point in time, I just try and take care of it and just live correctly as far as food intake and everyday activities. I don't really TRY to do anything, like I'm not going to get up and play touch football. In order to maintain proper exercise, I do have a trainer who comes to my home 3x a week and I don't know that I'm being conditioned for a marathon or anything, but I think I'd rather spectate than participate there.
Hi Vern, thanks for the AMA. I was wondering if maybe you knew my grandfather, Jerry Woods? He was a boatswain in the Navy and was supposed to be on the Oklahoma when it was bombed, but he was on leave visiting my grandmother. He was also stationed in the Pacific after the attack, and reading his diary his handwriting gets shakier the farther into the war it gets. Even if you never met him, I thank you for your service. I wish I could have met him before he passed in ‘86 I would like to have met him, too. But I never had that opportunity. One source of information related to your granddad, you may be able to obtain through the USS Oklahoma reunion group. Just about all ships have such an organization, but there should be information about the Oklahoma and its crew members.
How do you feel about the current generation? I see news that many veterans dislike how the flag+anthem is treated, aswell as how our age acts/goes about our social life. Tiktok especially. I don't even know that much about TikTok but...
I believe that the younger generation will respond as necessary whatever the conditions are, I believe they'll come forward. I believe the future is with them. What I've experienced recently as far as the political activities here in the country, it seems like in 90% of the cases it's the younger generations trying to get us back on the right track. It seems there are many issues that the older generations are tolerating or not having the guts to stand up and say "no".
So I have all the faith in the world in the young folks. I know their entertainment is a little different than what I've experienced, but every generation thinks that way about the youngers. If we give the young people a chance, we'll be headed in the right direction.
Hi sir! As a Filipino who grew up in Saudi Arabia, I guess my questions are where in Saudi Arabia did you work and how was your experience there? Also, thank you for your service! 💙 I had two projects in Saudi Arabia: one was a university in Riyadh and the other was a hospital addition for a hospital in Taif. Prior to that point in my career, I had built 5 hospitals so it was because of that since it was a hospital for the Royal Family in Taif. It was a good experience. Of course the unusual thing about working overseas is that not everyone speaks English so it's a challenge to conduct business when you have multiple languages on a production site. But we all speak language and that's through drawing. And frequently if there was a question and you didn't have the words, all you had to do was take your pencil and draw a picture. In that regard it was fun.
I had one project, might've been in Iran, it was almost like a meeting in the UN. We'd call a meeting and we'd have just about every nationality around the table. Luckily, the language you didn't know, somebody else did. I was lucky to have an architect on my staff who went to the University of Berkeley who knew Farsi. So I'd ask him something in English, he'd translate it into Farsi, somebody would translate it into French, and so forth.
Thank you for your service. We owe your generation a tremendous debt, and I’m personally grateful for your military service and your life’s work. How did living through WW2 change you? Did people think the world was going to end? Were there any signs to you that the US was going to pull through okay, or was it unclear what the outcome would be? At the declaration of war, I personally, and anybody I was associated with, had no doubts that we would win. We didn't care how difficult how might it be, but we were optimistic and convinced we were going to win. You can find something wrong with anything, somebody would probably complain after finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that the pot wasn't big enough. But I never doubted it for a minute.
My experience in the war really set me on my career because it was at that time that I decided I was specializing in destruction and the like and that when we won and I got out, I was going to spend the rest of my life doing constructive work. That led me to architecture and engineering. That was a change that sent me on how I would spend the rest of my life. Really in that regard, in my career, I had every type of project. I've probably had about 10 churches of every denomination, lots of schools. I did do work for our Defense Department and built Navy Bases for Iran and, during the Vietname war, a basecamp in Cambodia. So I did have some work that the only way it could be justified was that it was defense and trying to win a war and set things straight. But all of my work, private and commercial, benefitted society.
At any point during the war did you fear that the axis powers would win? And hitlers generalplan ost would be implemented. Also how aware was the common soldier of the large scale "liquidation" of the jews, poles, slave etc.? The war was worldwide and a serviceman could be in one area and not be aware of what was going on on the other side of the world. In my situation, I was in the navy and we were fighting a pacific war. So the only thing we knew were the things that we would get in a little newspaper that we would pin around the ship. And the source of that information was from our radio operator. So I didn't have knowledge of what was going on as far as Hitler, Patton, and the war in Europe. I didn't know until after the war about the concentration camps and the ill that the Jewish population had suffered.
It wasn't until I was discharged back in the US and started reading up on the history that I'd missed that I found out what had happened in Europe. Then I became aware of the concentration camps, slave labor, Holocaust, rocket projectile attacks on Europe, and the so forth. Because I was in the part of the world were the atomic bomb was dropped.
Was there ever a point where you really hated your enemy? Did you reconsider your views on them and change? If so, what made you change? I have some difficulty answering that because never in my life have I hated anything. I went to war because I felt it was my responsibility that we had to defend our country, defend our families in the like. I shot at him because he shot at me. Luckily for me, I was a better shot than he was. My war in the pacific was against the Japanese and I didn't hate them. They were coming after us we had to defend ourselves. The object is to win and so, in that vein, that's why I performed firing those guns and the like. I guess you'd say I was firing at an enemy I didn't hate. I sure didn't approve of his actions and so on and the guys on my ship had the same attitude.
Course there wasn't much we could do to a kamikaze airplane because his one motive was to destroy us and himself with us.
What was Iran like before the revolution vs after? I was in Iran prior to the revolution. Prior to the revolution, I feel it's a good country. Good people and so on. And so often happens, the wrong people get in command and lead you down a wrong road. The Shah had his problems and his people rebelled. Rulers who develop an oppressive atmosphere for the people, they don't have a fair and reasonable distribution of the country's assets and alike, trouble is ahead. And it was for the Shah. And my team and I were able to get out of the country just as the revolution was happening. I haven't been back since, but it's a good country and good people. In civilian life back in the US, I've had several architectural teams with several Iranian architects on it. My relationship with the Iranian people is great.
What made you want to join the navy? Did you always have a desire to fight for your country? Or did other factors force you in to service? I joined the service because I felt it was my obligation. I volunteered and my father had been in the navy in WW1. It seemed that our family had always been navy-minded. I was a senior in highschool when war was declared. I wasn't drafted -- I volunteered. I went into the Navy about 9 months after my older brother did too. The navy was my first choice then and it still is now for any person as far as service to their country for service to their country, discipline, and physical betterment. In my case, I gained an education there, learning to follow orders -- while it's sometimes not pleasant, it's something everyone needs to learn.
What skill would you insist on being taught to our youngsters? It's hard to select a single skill... Because if you're into automobiles there are certain basics that you need to know: change oil, change a wheel, know the basic laymen's items and so forth. If you're thinking about education, I think more attention must be given to the history of our country so that the younger generation can be well-steeped in history and understand what's gone before them and what they might do at some point to defend their country.
I believe firmly in immigration but I believe firmly that the people who immigrate here must learn our history and our language. Once they're here, they're Americans. History has shown what contributions immigrants can make if the door is open, but their knowledge of our history is important as well.
Who was the bravest person you ever knew and why? It's difficult to single out one person in particular, but I know that the group would have to include the fella that taught me how to fly. We made one flight from Evansville, IN to Kentucky for some customers that were going to the Kentucky derby. After the derby, we were going to take them back to Evansville. At the race track, a storm developed on our flight path. We had to make a determine whether or not to fly, stay on the ground and wait until the next morning. Our passenger wanted to get back to Evansville so the decision was made that we would fly that night. Since this was an area that we frequently flew in, we made telephone calls to people on the ground along our flight path to ask them about the weather. When all their answers were favorable, we were able to make the trip. On the way, we encountered the cell of the storm -- the airplane was all over the sky, up and down and all over. We really experienced Newton's law of motion that every action has an opposite action. The storm was so bad that the water was coming in the ports that normally bring in fresh air. We were right in the storm and the lightning bolts were such that we had to turn the lights on in the airplane because our eyes couldn't adjust fast enough to see the instrument panel.
But that pilot was certainly a very brave person who kept his thoughts together, was well organized, and was able to control that airplane when it was going every which way. For everything, I believe there's a humorous side. During that incident, the lady who was a passenger had had a quite a few juleps at the race track and she thought she was on a rollercoaster! She was having quite the time rolling all around.
But this guy was brave and kept a clear head and brought us back fine and dandy. During WW2 he had been a sailor and had been on a submarine and had also gotten through that with his life and there he was tempting fate again and came through with flying colors.
I turned 40 on Friday and never knew either of my grandfathers growing up. I feel like I've been missing sage wisdom and the enrichment only a grandparent can bring. Will you be my grandfather? Laughs
Sounds great. Let's have at it. See what kind of trouble we can get into.
What do you like on a pizza? I like meat pizzas. Italian sausage, pepperoni. I like green peppers. I guess the pizza I like is the one that the local pizzamaker calls Farouk. Bobe's pizzeria in Vincennes. Some people would call that supreme. It's just got all the meat and everything on it.
How did you feel when you first heard about the attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The reaction was one really of satisfaction. Because you have to remember: we had those kamikazes that were deliberately flying their airplanes into our ships and killing us. We didn't have many favorable feelings towards the Japanese and we had been notified that we were part of the invasion force going into Japan. We all wanted to get it over with and go home.
Our first reaction was one of thankfulness that it had happened. Then later in life we had a chance to think the whole thing through about the number of people that had been killed. At the same time, we were betting men that we would get out and that we would get to go home.
How do you feel about the new C8 Vettes? Well I know it's a good automobile and I have all the confidence in the world in it. I know it's going to take over and continue on building to the records established by the C7. In fact, as I understand it, thats' really the reason they built a mid engine car instead of a front engine car. I like it, but at this point in time, I haven't been able to examine the car and I look forward to doing that. But I think it's going to be a good one and perform well on the racetrack.
I vote aye.
Hey I go to school in Vincennes! Small world. Are you originally from Indiana? Yes! I was born in Vincennes, Indiana June 6 1924!
After the war, I went to Vincennes University then transferred to Washington University in St. Louis.
I was associate architect on the first permanent building built on the new campus there at VU. At that time, it was the student union building but it's become something else now, not sure what.
Would you say that your life was good? Yes. When the war was over, I set my ambition and goal and I think that I've accomplished that. I tried to make my life one that would be pleasing to my family and I think that's the case, I don't know if I'm being flattered or not. All in all, I'm pleased and I've accomplished what it was I set out to do. I'm proud of what's happened and what I've done with my time here on Earth.
What’s your favourite childhood memory? You know I don't think I have one...
My favorite childhood memory were the frequent visits I had with my grandfather. He was a good storyteller and as a little kid I ate up every word.
Reading through your replies makes it very clear that you have kept a very open mind and continued to stay critical with your thinking. In recent years both my Grandfathers have trended in the opposite direction (aka become Fox News fanatics) which has been disappointing to say the least because they were at one point very tolerant people but have lost that. Do you have any advice on how to stay plugged in/open minded/critical (as you clearly have) even as you age and the world changes more around you? Oh boy. Now that's difficult to answer. Well I don't know what my answer would be to that really.
I have just always tried to see humor as part of life and, in my own way, determine what war I could win because of what battles I selected to fight.
I chose really to see the good in people and activities and happenings and so on and I intentionally divorced myself intentionally from anything that didn't fit that profile. I discovered that worry got you nothing, that you weren't making a contribution, and you're making yourself miserable. So I guess to that extent, I made a conscious effort to stay open minded.
And I was that way in my youth, so in my senior years it just became my way of doing. I just sort of fell into that way of thinking because that was just me.
Additionally, my profession was to "create new". We'd start with a blank piece of ground and at the end we'd have a building. So, my life since 1946, has been a sort of manifest of that attitude. Building hospitals, schools, churches, you name it, so there was always the satisfaction of contributing and walking away with something to be proud of.
I sure do notice that "Fox News-iness" happening to some of my peers. At that point, there's no turning back. It's just ingrained and they see the worried side of life and haven't determined what contribution they can make to make things better. It's just all around a more negative attitude than a positive and happy one.
I don’t really have a question, but you remind me of my Grandfather♥️. He was a POW in Berlin in WWII that led a successful escape...he was in the Army, 78th infantry, “Lightning Strikes” division. After returning stateside, he worked as an engineer & electrician for RF&P (railroad). He passed away almost 10 years ago, but he will always be my hero. Thank you for your service & your willingness to do this AMA...& thank you for reminding me of the admiration I still feel for my Papa. Actually, I do have a question, what habits did you pick up while in the military that you still have today? My Grandfather was early to everything & his shoes were always matte black, like his combat boots, & polished daily. He also taught all of us grandchildren how to kill someone with our bare hands which highly pissed off my grandmother.🤣 I'm happy that I can generate some memories! I'm sure your grandpa was a great man. One thing I formed a habit of is being punctual. Never late. Generally 5-10 minutes early. The thing early that stuck with me the longest, which I experienced when I sat down to do this. At this point in life, I do my own laundry. It's a chore you just have to do. When it comes to putting clothes away, we learned to roll our clothes in the Navy. So to this day, any day I do my laundry I always roll it the same way I did in the Navy back in 1942. So that's a few years ago, but it's been with me all these years. And when it comes to packing, in the Navy we had a sea bag, you could get the most clothes in that bag by rolling clothes a certain way. All the travelling I've done, travelling in a suitcase I still roll the clothes as I did in the Navy days.
Did anyone else read every OP response in their head with their best 90+ year old man voice? Laughs
When you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up? My interest had always been in drawing and art. I was interested in that field, but being young there was nothing specific. I just liked the area.
I was always drawing pictures or whatever. Even to the point where my teachers at school would get on my case because I'd be drawing pictures instead of focusing on my lessons.
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2020.11.16 17:51 Remount_Kings_Troop_ Subreddit Data Analysis - Part One

Subreddit Data Analysis

Summary of Project

Captured all ~169k Posts and 2.7 million comments from the /worldoftanks subreddit from April 2011 through April 2020.

Analysis Releases

The subreddit data analysis will be broken into three separate postings which will cover:
This particular post will cover the Posts submitted to the /worldoftanks subreddit.
However, before I get into those details, I will first share how the data was obtained and processed.

Data Source

I owe a huge debt of thanks to Jason Baumgartner (Stuck_In_the_Matrix), who runs the pushshift.io website, which is a big-data storage and analytics project, and who moderates the /pushshift subreddit.
Essentially, he makes a copy of all Reddit posts and comments by querying Reddit's API, and makes that data available for download. He is the proverbial genius whose shoulders I have stood upon, and his colossal efforts make my modest data project possible. As a result, I support him on Patreon.

Data Privacy

I understand that many Redditors have privacy concerns about their data being stored/viewable on the internet, and some have taken active steps to remove their data (comments/posts) after a period of time. The /pushshift subreddit does have a thread where you can request that your data is deleted/no longer saved in the future.
Note: Even if you delete your comments and posts periodically here on Reddit via a script/bot, your data will still be captured by pushshift because it captures the data almost as soon as it is created.
You may also DM me, and I'll delete your data from my data set too.

The Data

The Reddit data is stored here: http://files.pushshift.io/reddit/
The monthly submission files contain all posts made in ALL the 2.2 million reddit sub-reddits since Reddit's inception in January 2011, and through April 2020. The monthly subreddit files ranged in size from 0.15 MB to 9.1 GB.
New months are added on no particular schedule.
The files are compressed in the bz2, xz, or zst format, and I used Peazip (for zst) or Winzip (for bz2 and xz) to unzip the JSON data (and yes, I actually bought Winzip).
Once decompressed, I needed to separate out the /worldoftanks data from the non-worldoftanks data. This is no small task when an 8.9 GB compressed file becomes a 97.6 GB uncompressed text file. Fortunately, I found a pretty amazing text editor named EmEditor, which can open very large text files. It was also able to split the larger files into more 'manageable' 10 GB chunks that my laptop could process without choking (Note: Once I got my new PC with 32 GB of RAM, I no longer had to split the files). I was able to use EmEditor's Find capability to search the files and Extract each line in the file that contained the /worldoftanks subreddit identifier (t5_2s113). For example, the March 2018 Reddit Submissions file contained 96,490,262 records, and only 1,856 (0.0019%) were from the /worldoftanks subreddit.
Once extracted, I had to convert the JSON-formatted records into Excel. To do this, I used www.json-csv.com, which charges $10 per month if you want to convert over 1 MB/day.
Notes: You'll need Excel 2007 or greater to get past the 65,536 row limit that exists in previous versions.

Results - Posts

Distribution of Posts

In terms of frequency, here are the number of posts per year in the /worldoftanks subreddit:
Year /worldoftanks posts
2011 579
2012 7,378
2013 19,875
2014 17,904
2015 17,536
2016 19,803
2017 23,854
2018 21,044
2019 26,525
2020 15,239*
Total 169,737
*Note: The 2020 number only contains records through April 2020.
Graph of Posts Over Time: Image / PDF

Number of Posts Over Time - Analysis

/worldoftanks posting activity seems to be correlated with the academic schedules followed in the US and Europe.
For example, in 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2018, you can see a general increase in the late-spring/summer months (when US students are on summer break), and then a decrease starting in September thru November (corresponding to the US Fall semester which runs mid-August through December), and then a peak in December when US students are on Christmas Break. 2016 and 2017 don't show this trend. 2019 has a spike in May and June, but the general trend is an increase from April to August.
Interestingly, during the US Spring semester (which runs mid-January through the end of April), posting activity increases from Jan through April in most years.
EU-country's academic schedules are much more varied than the US, but my research indicates that many EU Fall school breaks run from mid-Dec - early-January, and EU Spring breaks runs from late March to mid-April.
The observed data supports an EU fall break in December, and the EU Spring break may help to explain the increases frequently seen in March, and the frequent peaks seen in the month of April.

Types of Posts

There are two types of posts: text posts, where you write the content in a text box, and link posts, where you provide a link to another website, image, video, etc.
Of the 169,737 posts in the /worldoftanks subreddit, 92,803 were self posts (54.7%), and 76,934 were link posts (45.3%). This designation is maintained even for deleted posts.

Link Posts

Reddit records the domain for each linked post. Of the 76,934 linked posts, the post count of the 25 most-linked-to domains totaled to 69,983 records, or 91.0% of all linked posts.
Ranking Domain Posts Cumulative # of Posts % of Total Linked Posts Cumulative %
1 imgur.com 21,494 21,494 27.9% 27.9%
2 i.redd.it/i.reddituploads.com (images) 18,719 40,213 24.3% 52.3%
3 youtube.com 15,146 55,359 19.7% 72.0%
4 gfycat.com 3003 58,362 3.9% 75.9%
5 v.redd.it (video saved to reddit) 2269 60,631 2.9% 78.8%
6 worldoftanks.com 1740 62,371 2.3% 81.1%
7 twitch.tv 1508 63,879 2.0% 83.0%
8 worldoftanks.eu 1318 65,197 1.7% 84.7%
9 ftr.wot-news.com 646 65,843 0.8% 85.6%
10 wotreplays.eu 495 66,338 0.6% 86.2%
11 forum.worldoftanks.com 454 66,792 0.6% 86.8%
12 ritastatusreport.live (and earlier versions) 424 67,216 0.6% 87.4%
13 reddit.com 325 67,541 0.4% 87.8%
14 eu.wargaming.net 303 67,844 0.4% 88.2%
15 thearmoredpatrol.com 272 68,116 0.4% 88.5%
16 streamable.com 258 68,374 0.3% 88.9%
17 thedailybounce.net 236 68,610 0.3% 89.2%
18 forum.worldoftanks.eu 222 68,832 0.3% 89.5%
19 worldoftanks.asia 200 69,032 0.3% 89.7%
20 na.wargaming.net 192 69,224 0.2% 90.0%
21 gyazo.com 188 69,412 0.2% 90.2%
22 puu.sh 180 69,592 0.2% 90.5%
23 strawpoll.me 143 69,735 0.2% 90.6%
24 facebook.com 127 69,862 0.2% 90.8%
25 twitter.com 121 69,983 0.2% 91.0%
>25 (other domains) 6,951 76,934 9.0% 100.0%
Total / % of Total 76,934 100.0%
Pie Chart Showing Link Post Domain Distribution: IMAGE / PDF

Average Post Karma by Domain

On a domain basis, I calculated the sum of the karma for all posts for that domain, then divided by the number of posts for that domain, in order to calculate the average karma for posts from that domain.
Ranking Domain # of Posts by Domain Total Karma Average Karma
1 i.redd.it/i.reddituploads.com (images) 18,719 2,136,606 114.1
2 v.redd.it (video saved to reddit) 2269 251,118 110.7
3 gfycat.com 3,003 218,116 72.6
4 imgur.com 21,494 747,048 34.8
5 streamable.com 258 8,710 33.8
6 puu.sh 180 5,984 33.2
7 thedailybounce.net 236 6,326 26.8
8 ftr.wot-news.com 646 15,168 23.5
9 ritastatusreport.live (and earlier versions) 424 8,855 20.9
10 twitch.tv 1508 30,705 20.4
11 thearmoredpatrol.com 272 5,004 18.4
12 forum.worldoftanks.eu 222 3,866 17.4
13 worldoftanks.com 1,740 26,670 15.3
14 worldoftanks.eu 1,318 18,897 14.3
15 twitter.com 121 1,651 13.6
16 facebook.com 127 1,714 13.5
17 worldoftanks.asia 200 2,547 12.7
18 gyazo.com 188 1,959 10.4
19 eu.wargaming.net 303 3,041 10.0
20 na.wargaming.net 192 1,804 9.4
21 forum.worldoftanks.com 454 3,803 8.4
22 reddit.com 325 2,277 7.0
23 youtube.com 15,146 95,143 6.3
24 strawpoll.me 143 232 1.6
25 wotreplays.eu 495 79 0.2

Edited Posts

Of the 169,737 posts in the subreddit, 12,620 were edited after being created (7.4%). The remaining 157,117 (92.6%) were not edited after creation.

Gilded Posts

It appears that the ability to award Gold to posts was added in September 2012. From September 2012 through April 2020, 112 different posts received 124 Gold awards in the /worldoftanks subreddit. Three gilded posts were from deleted users.

Users who have had more than one gold post

Of those 112 gilded posts, a few users authored more than one:
Author Number of Gilded Posts with two or more Gold Awards
IveBeenBaguetted 3
TollhouseFrank 3
MrUltraGumby 2
TRU_voodoo 2
Penultimatum 2
Jozef_de_Burdi 2
StranaMechty 2

Posts with more than one Gold

A very small number of /worldoftanks Reddit posts have received more than one gold award:
Reddit User Post Number of Gold Awards on Post
Penultimatum [NA] Scavenger Hunt Info and Codes for May (with link to official WG post and frequent updates) 4
twofingersofredrum This is going to take a while to grind 3
MrUltraGumby My Side of the Wargaming America Visit with Victor 2
assassinator Clearing up some things. 2
Wakka_bot Project Poverty - a Free-to-play experiment - Part 0+1 2
Penultimatum [NA] Scavenger Hunt Info and Codes for January and February (with link to official WG post and frequent updates) 2

Posts with the Most Comments

A good post elicits a strong response in the form of comments. Not surprisingly, most of the posts with a high number of comments are giveaways:
Note: The current number of comments shown will not match these counts due to comment deletions that occurred after the post data was captured.
Ranking Author Post Title/Link # of Original Comments
1 Canteen_CA Black Market Megathread 1,745
2 sheepcat87 [Giveaway] $108 worth of stuff via Intel bundle 1,342
3 Canteen_CA Christmas Lootboxes Megathread 932
4 Ectar_ We are Wargaming! AMA about update 9.0! 870
5 TollhouseFrank Private "Santa Clause" Public's Christmas Give-away 813
6 Hypnotik-WG [NA] Tank Hollow Contest 812
7 Bonkeyz [Giveaway] $108 worth of in-game content 762
8 shiftyjamo Giving away a code for the NA server 713
9 Methos_ Your Unpopular World of Tanks Opinions 711
10 MPorts Free World of Tanks Currency Giveaway! 663
11 DamienJaxx No more RDDT social clans 657
12 brawnhoeffer What has happened, RDDT? 631
13 jphero Bonus Code Raffle! 620
14 Deutschbagger Share your Loot Box stories here! 616
15 ahenkel I bought an Intel CPU it has World of Tank codes. I don't play WOT. I'm giving them away. 615
16 Axertin Why all the extreme artillery hate? 606
17 Remount_Kings_Troop_ Remount's Yule Log Contest - Win 25,000 gold 590
18 Arcaniusu Free wargaming code 588
19 Laera_wg Hi, We’re Wargaming America - Ask Us Anything! 579
20 MiiLee94 [Giveaway][NA only] World Of Tanks Expert Pack 574

Posts with Highest Karma Scores

The karma numbers displayed on a post are not "real" numbers, they have been "fuzzed" to prevent spam bots from figuring out exactly how Reddit's karma system works. So, if you click on a link below, the karma score may not match (because it was a fuzzed number when captured, and it could have been upvoted/downvoted after it was captured).
Reddit User Post Highest Karma Scores
mitsakos23 Sometimes i miss the "All" chat.. 3,378
Uolak Japanese TD models leaked 3,074
UnnecessaryAmmoRack Wish allied arta couldn't stun teammates 2,983
Scro11Lock Totally not a cakeday bait 2,966
szymon7410 Wow the new wheeled hetzer looks amazing! Will be well balanced for sure 2,771
infuriatesloth I’m gonna miss all chat 2,725
strobika Every god damn time... 2,684
DD-Amin WoT playerbase, 2020, colourised. 2,636
rickyfort5 British and American heavy tanks, explained by biology 2,629
Zenzetaa In the end it's the result that matters, right? 2,560

Redditors with Highest Average Karma Scores

These are the Redditors who have gotten the most Karma on a per post basis. They are the most efficient post karma generators--not necessarily the most prolific in their postings.
Ranking Author Average Karma Post Count of author Post Karma Link Domain
1 szymon7410 2,771 1 2,771 Wow the new wheeled hetzer looks amazing! Will be well balanced for sure i.redd.it
2 GangTank 2,202 1 2,202 Tier 10 tanks hand drawing by country i.redd.it
3 RaidS016 2,184 1 2,184 I was not expecting that i.redd.it
4 Irbis_02 2,154 1 2,154 We need to be quick! i.redd.it
5 MaxBattleLizard 2,148 1 2,148 Enjoy my homebrew meme. i.redd.it
6 Roxorium 2,102 1 2,102 Enemy team: gains advantage and is about to win; SPG players: v.redd.it
7 SuperAarukka 1,896 2 1,943 I came across this on the main page today v.redd.it
1,848 Have we really gone this far down... i.redd.it
8 Fookoffyetwot 1,818 1 1,818 Sooo this is true i.redd.it
9 PepeHandsDerp 1,816 1 1,816 Most toxic arty shot ever v.redd.it
10 Sarhan556 1,764 1 1,764 Stay safe and buy a large med kit guys i.redd.it

Karma by Posters

If we take all of the posts of a user, then add up the posting karma on each of their posts, I can come up with a total posting karma number that can be used to rank the users to determine who has generated the largest amount of posting karma in the subreddit.
The total amount of Karma earned by all non-deleted users is 4,355,083, while deleted users generated 93,917 karma, for a grand Karma total of 4,449,000 post Karma.
Here are the top ten Karma-earning Posters in /worldoftanks:
Rank Redditor Total Post Karma
1 IveBeenBaguetted 73,045
2 Alegende 34,085
3 saldytuwas 30,639
4 enginerdz 22,068
5 Jozef_de_Burdi 16,426
6 larsvdmeyde 15,453
7 TChen114 15,283
8 mfumukoskoldpadda 15,205
9 LEONAPROFI 14,667
10 asparagustasty 14,499

Average Post Karma vs Average # of Post Comments

I calculated the average post karma and the average # of comments, over time:
Year Average Karma Avg # Comments
2011 8.2 11.6
2012 11.9 14.6
2013 13.2 15.6
2014 12.8 19.6
2015 13.8 20.3
2016 13.8 17.5
2017 17.6 18.1
2018 27.7 17.2
2019 49.7 15.2
2020 67.4 13.0
The total correlation between the two data sets was a low negative correlation of -0.342489168.
 
However, when I graphed the data, something interesting was revealed.
Average post Karma/average # of comments: Image, PDF
 
The data had a low positive correlation between 2011 and the start of 2017 (0.69), but then becomes negatively correlated (-0.99) as the Average post Karma increases substantially starting in 2017 and into April 2020.
I considered the fact that it may be related to the subscriber count (more eyes = more upvotes), but the subscriber count increase seemed fairly linear (unlike the average post Karma value):
Subscriber stats: Image, PDF
Note: This subscriber data was obtained from [subredditstats](www.subredditstats.com/worldoftanks).
My Statistics class was a LONG time ago, so I'd welcome thoughts on what may be causing a higher average post karma.

Downvoted Posts

It appears that Reddit removed Downvotes and Upvotes from the API in December 2016 (and thereafter just provided the combined Score value). However, here are the 10 most downvoted posts prior to that date:
Reddit User Post Number of Downvotes
alphahomersimpson Formal apology to RDDT members. 47
teser1 How I feel every time I see a SS of the victory screen on /worldoftanks 45
[deleted] 100 upvotes and i give this paysafecard to a lucky man 37
Dvinci Playing a French tank is like raping someone. 36
Westy543 A friend of mine started tonight; for the last battle of the night, he was pulled into a tier 10 battle for laughs. He found a Maus. 32
AlertAtheist My keys made an interesting shadow last night,i've been playing too much WoT to see this... 32
antricfer Karma machine in a TD. 31
flyingbird0026 How I see Russian mediums as an E-100 player. 28
[deleted] reach for water. grab fan. 27
hotibomba Inventor of this awkward map 27

Post flairs

In June 2015, our moderation overlords rolled out a system that allowed redditors to chose a flair for their posts (e.g., Arty, Survey, Giveaway, etc.). In April 2019, they released a subreddit redesign that allowed redditors to filter post flairs, essentially allowing redditors to see what type of posts they would/wouldn't see. The moderators also have the ability to fat-finger a value and do so with comments such as, :D, Answered, Rant, Abusive Post, SirFoch Drama, etc.
To date, there have been 29,270 flaired posts, and they have been distributed as follows:
Flair Flair Count % of all Flairs Cumulative %
Discussion 5,632 19.2% 19.2%
Question 5,639 19.3% 38.5%
Meme 5,315 18.2% 56.7%
Picture 2,441 8.3% 65.0%
Video 18,34 6.3% 71.3%
Shitpost 15,75 5.4% 76.7%
Post Battle Result 1,476 5.0% 81.7%
(Fat-Fingered by Mods) 1,336 5.0% 86.3%
News 809 2.8% 89.1%
PSA 602 2.1% 91.1%
Fan Made 505 1.7% 92.8%
Arty 488 1.7% 94.5%
Gif 310 1.1% 95.6%
Wargaming News 207 0.7% 96.3%
History 207 0.7% 97.0%
Guide 192 0.7% 97.6%
Console 171 0.6% 98.2%
Giveaway 157 0.5% 98.8%
Survey 152 0.5% 99.3%
Stream 117 0.4% 99.7%
Clan 105 0.4% 100.0%
Totals 29,270 100%
Pie Chart Showing Post Flair Distribution: IMAGE / PDF

Post Flair Karma

Did you want to farm Karma here on the /worldoftanks subreddit? Here is how the different flaired post types have faired on an average karma basis:
Flair Post Count with that Flair Average Karma
Meme 5315 212.5
Fan Made 505 125.8
Gif 310 122.2
History 207 97.0
Picture 2441 90.8
Arty 488 73.3
Shitpost 1575 69.7
Video 1834 54.7
News 809 34.3
PSA 602 32.7
Post Battle Result 1476 32.1
Guide 192 28.0
Wargaming News 207 22.5
Stream 117 17.6
Console 171 15.2
Giveaway 157 14.6
Discussion 5632 13.8
Survey 152 10.9
Question 5639 5.2
Clan 105 4.0
Apparently, you shouldn't waste your time making a helpful guide. Make a meme instead.

Most active posters

In terms of the most active posters, as defined by the total number of posts made:
Ranking Author # of Posts in /worldoftanks
1 kurg79 1,583
2 DatBoyGuru 308
3 Masauwu 281
4 chort0 250
5 enginerdz 250
6 Fuckanator 247
7 IveBeenBaguetted 247
8 try2tame 241
9 TollhouseFrank 226
10 garganchua 219
11 StranaMechty 213
12 remount_kings_troop_ 212
13 _taugrim_ 208
14 memyselfandlapin 207
15 saldytuwas 201
16 RagingRaptor177 200
17 V_Epsilon 198
18 Elmalab 186
19 JacquesCouSTO 186
20 milkym4n 182

Count of Users with the Same Number of Posts

From April 2011 through April 2020, 169,737 posts were made in the /worldoftanks subreddit. 32,794 unique users submitted 146,643 of those posts. The balance--23,094--were deleted posts whose authors can't be determined (that is, 13.6% or ~1/7 posts have been deleted). Those deleted posts may have been made by still-existing users, or the posts may have been made by now-deleted users.
Note: 32,794 is NOT the total number of users in the sub. See the end of this post for the true number (which includes users that have commented).
Here is the breakdown by # of users and their # of posts:
# of Posts # of Users with that # of posts % of users Cumulative %
1 17,066 52.0% 52.0%
2 4,958 15.1% 67.2%
3 2,602 7.9% 75.1%
4 1,604 4.9% 80.0%
5 1,121 3.4% 83.4%
6 851 2.6% 86.0%
7 647 2.0% 88.0%
8 492 1.5% 89.5%
9 381 1.2% 90.6%
10 337 1.0% 91.7%
11-99 2736 8.0% 99.7%
>100 100 0.3% 100.0%
32,794
Pie Graph showing Percentage of Users/Number of Posts IMAGE / PDF
While Reddit does display the number of Redditors that have subscribed to the sub, we cannot tell how many of those subscribers have ever made a post (or comment). Thus, we can't determine an 'active' vs 'lurker' percentage.

Next Steps

Either an analysis of the 2,745,764 comments, or the 78,764 unique Reddit users that have posted or commented in the /worldoftanks subreddit.
I would also welcome requests and suggestions on different ways to analyze the data.
Edit: Header formats, added graphs
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2020.11.16 05:00 MarkdownShadowBot Removed comments/submissions for /u/puppymartini

Hi puppymartini, you're not shadowbanned, but 76 of your most recent 106 comments/submissions were removed (either automatically or by human moderators).

Comments:

e1t3wti in thanosdidnothingwrong on 05 Jul 18 (1pts):
Alright I'll play
dx0ixvs in ArbiterApp on 08 Apr 18 (1pts):
Sounds fun. Lg G4
dm5qows in videos on 26 Aug 17 (8pts):
Still... it's a three man job to fuck one.
difbn42 in videos on 04 Jun 17 (4pts):
James and Stef Dated?
dhloyzl in electricians on 15 May 17 (4pts):
I certainly agree, just saw it in the shop and found it funny.
dgsxik9 in electricians on 27 Apr 17 (1pts):
I'll stick with my Robertson bits and what are the tin snips for?
dgpcft2 in electricians on 24 Apr 17 (1pts):
Yes...?
dgp6u52 in electricians on 24 Apr 17 (1pts):
Thank you!
dgp6hwz in electricians on 24 Apr 17 (1pts):
I've had knipex pliers on my wishlist for a while now, and I'm going to be starting with mostly residential so I'll probably put a ball peen on my shopping list. Thanks.
dgokauz in electricians on 24 Apr 17 (1pts):
That tape came with the klein tool kit I bought at the beginning of the year, and I don't use it that much while I'm taking my course so they haven't been a problem but I will most likely be doing...
dgok1bf in electricians on 24 Apr 17 (2pts):
I don't know why my sharpie isn't in this picture and I do have a headlamp I just haven't used it sence our shop has adequate lighting. I've also thought about getting those strippers a few times,...
dgnzqvq in electricians on 24 Apr 17 (1pts):
Actually our local supply store was selling a klein kit for a pretty good price at start of the year so most of our class have the same basic tools.
dgny5pl in electricians on 24 Apr 17 (1pts):
Missing in the picture is my hacksaw and jab saw.
dfpn6pm in funhaus on 02 Apr 17 (2pts):
Yes thank you! We could even use some help from you guys. I was helping earlier before we got started on Cow Chop and AH logo.
ddr4tqy in WouldYouRather on 14 Feb 17 (1pts):
FFS, picked the money, clicked the link and got Omnipotence Embodiment.
dcrvgr7 in CowChop on 22 Jan 17 (1pts):
I just want to know why they're choosing to go to LA and not Texas with the RT HQ.
d9fjjo0 in pokemon on 31 Oct 16 (1pts):
sure I'll take anything if it's free
d1psogy in moncton on 04 Apr 16 (2pts):
There's a place setup for parallel parking right here https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.0874551,-64.7743777,3a,15y,284.15h,85.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg5HP52qChoARMhxMdLPMJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 You just...
d1dtz4f in videos on 26 Mar 16 (1pts):
I've watched this many times but i swear Jason Bonham looking up at the end thinking of his dad just get's me every fucking time.
cxt6jbb in AskReddit on 09 Dec 15 (1pts):
Why not a McLaren? Hell why not both
cx3vfh8 in TheCreatures on 17 Nov 15 (1pts):
When did they talk about this? Did i miss a creature talk or something?
cubf88b in me_irl on 22 Aug 15 (1pts):
Jesus...that is just way too cringey.
ctwllsf in moncton on 09 Aug 15 (1pts):
Could you link the video
ctj25br in pcmasterrace on 28 Jul 15 (1pts):
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ctgx4fw in pcmasterrace on 26 Jul 15 (1pts):
423
ctfzl7p in pcmasterrace on 25 Jul 15 (1pts):
I've been waiting for Kerbal space program to have a actual sale ;)
ctdhcyh in pcmasterrace on 23 Jul 15 (1pts):
4970 Thanks op for the giveaway ;)
ct79iw6 in millionairemakers on 18 Jul 15 (1pts):
RemindMe! 2 days Donation for /millionairemakers
crazbmt in pcmasterrace on 16 May 15 (1pts):
6532
Good luck to everyone :3
cqyzdls in TheCreatures on 05 May 15 (2pts):
There have also been a few sponsors on creature talk though, so I'm not sure which ones op is talking about.
cnu93lm in SmiteLFM on 19 Jan 15 (1pts):
IGN: PuppyM, Mid is my best.
cnd786w in TheCreatures on 03 Jan 15 (2pts):
Oh, wow I managed to miss that one. :P Thanks.
cncuztp in TheCreatures on 03 Jan 15 (1pts):
What is this from?
cmoe4md in pics on 08 Dec 14 (0pts):
Do you really think someone would do that?Just go on the internet and tell lies.
cmas5t9 in SmiteLFM on 23 Nov 14 (1pts):
Ign: PuppyM
ckubnut in TheCreatures on 28 Sep 14 (1pts):
Why is there no past broadcast?
ckfvsml in funny on 12 Sep 14 (1pts):
Archer
cjy4bh5 in whatsthisbug on 23 Aug 14 (1pts):
Alright thanks for the help. :)
cjy40lz in whatsthisbug on 23 Aug 14 (1pts):
The thing is, I thought that pile of stuff was made by the bugs because I had never seen that before until they showed up.
cjy3qk0 in whatsthisbug on 23 Aug 14 (1pts):
That was behind my night stand. And I did after I took the picture.
ciwn7h0 in TheCreatures on 14 Jul 14 (1pts):
My first creatures related video was when Kootra did this UAV madness video, i then looked into his channel and found the rest of the creatures
ciru0ty in TheCreatures on 08 Jul 14 (1pts):
That was so beautiful... WHO PUT THIS BOWL OF ONIONS HERE! But seriously that was really well done, loved it.
cipj8a1 in pics on 06 Jul 14 (91pts):
AND MY AXE
cija1fo in upvotegifs on 28 Jun 14 (1pts):
Certainly not worth it. :P
cij3g9o in upvotegifs on 28 Jun 14 (1pts):
Well I know each key has a individual light but they most are most likely all on the same line. :/
ciiqc8o in upvotegifs on 27 Jun 14 (1pts):
I would also like to know if it's possible to do this on any light-up keyboard.
I have a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate.
cie9lik in SmiteLFM on 22 Jun 14 (1pts):
I'd love to try out
IGN:PuppyM
cid0v8x in Smite on 21 Jun 14 (1pts):
Wow it actually is up, sorry i doubted you i had checked before i left my computer for a bit and that was after the first comment so i was replying with my phone. it seems that my client wasent...
cid0gwf in Smite on 21 Jun 14 (1pts):
Can you provide me with proof that you're in the pts and playing it?
cid0bn8 in Smite on 21 Jun 14 (1pts):
No it's not...
ci8bba2 in whatsthisbug on 15 Jun 14 (1pts):
I live in Canada.
ci2fgsv in AdviceAnimals on 08 Jun 14 (1pts):
On my tenth birthday I had a water balloon fight and had cake after but I was exhausted and didn't love cake THAT much so I didn't eat any that day. A few days later still haven't had a slice of...
ci2epfw in Smite on 08 Jun 14 (2pts):
Chronos
chwfzvp in battlefield3 on 01 Jun 14 (2pts):
I can't even join a server when I hit Quick Match :/
cgtk4ti in Smite on 16 Apr 14 (1pts):
There's also a app on ios called Smite RGG (smite random god generator) you can even make certain groups where you choose what gods you are randomizing.
Sorry for any poor grammar English isn't my...
cg7047v in SmiteLFM on 20 Mar 14 (1pts):
I would like to talk about how you guys play and whatnot so just add me and we'll talk
IGN: PuppyM
cg63zx3 in TheCreatures on 19 Mar 14 (3pts):
Really hope you get to finish this soon, it seems really interesting.
cg2di08 in TheCreatures on 14 Mar 14 (7pts):
That's not the creature office, there's a tour of it on the creature hub and non of the rooms look anything like that. :P
cg24chv in todayilearned on 14 Mar 14 (-2pts):
...that's French :P
cfy7thf in TheCreatures on 09 Mar 14 (6pts):
I would also love to see this, I really have a lot of hope for this though because James seems to have wrote it down on the board or something.
cfxrnky in SmiteLFM on 08 Mar 14 (1pts):
Can I have your IGN so we can check out your stats?
cft91y8 in funny on 03 Mar 14 (7pts):
Can confirm live in dieppe
cfm69rt in SmiteLFM on 23 Feb 14 (2pts):
If you want you can add my clan leader i'm sure we could set some up, his IGN is: JackRipper99
cf6cuit in reactiongifs on 04 Feb 14 (0pts):
What is this gif from? I see it all the time and just can't remember what it's from. :/
cex6tsc in Smite on 23 Jan 14 (2pts):
no patches are on usualy on wednesdays, so next week
ceak2e8 in gaming on 26 Dec 13 (1pts):
yep :/
cdkxmar in pics on 23 Nov 13 (11pts):
gg wp
cdb1g8x in funny on 10 Nov 13 (1pts):
Google translate didn't help...
cd8c1nv in Smite on 06 Nov 13 (1pts):
My favorite god to play is Mercury because most of his abilities can help secure that last hit for a kill, also his 3d ability can really help by throwing a enemy towards you teammates witch can...
ccd0v65 in funny on 22 Sep 13 (11pts):
Well it is a commercial so yeah it's fake. :P
cbvdp24 in TheCreatures on 26 Aug 13 (1pts):
The memories, I loved the original TreeHouse series
caa7yix in funny on 01 Jun 13 (1pts):
I really don't think people in NB talk funny.

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2soo7w in Smite on 17 Jan 15 (18pts):
PTS is up!! :D
2eyg7q in buildapc on 29 Aug 14 (1pts):
[Build Help] I am looking into buying a PC with integrated graphics...
2edxcg in pcmasterrace on 23 Aug 14 (0pts):
Could someone explain this to me?
1l3deb in FaithInHumanity on 26 Aug 13 (7pts):
This really cheered me when hearing about it (first post)
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2020.11.14 19:47 anhonorandapleasure "i haven't heard a single 2nd gen kpop song i like" - an update!

hi everyone! so a few weeks ago i posted on uko that i had never heard a 2nd gen kpop song i liked. i got a TON of comments suggesting songs and i've finally finished listening to all of them, so i thought i would give a little update in case anyone was curious about which ones i ended up liking and downloading!
note: in my original post i defined "2nd gen kpop song" as a song that was released during the 2nd generation of kpop, which by most accounts ended in 2009-2010. however, as a lot of people commented songs that were released after that, i'm compromising and including songs that were released through 2013. there were a couple other songs that i liked and downloaded but they were released after 2013 so i'm not listing them here.
out of over 250 song suggestions from over 60 artists, these are the songs i downloaded that were released before the end of 2013:
and that's it! just 9 8 songs total, which is not super impressive but it's 9 8 more than i had before lol. and shoutout to everyone who commented songs on my post! even if i didn't end up liking the songs you suggested, it was still very fun to explore older kpop :)
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2020.11.12 21:48 ar_david_hh Nov/12/2020 wrap-up: \\ War in Artsakh \\ Pashinyan speech about past, present, and future \\ Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov opens the parenthesis; criticizes Armenian opposition parties; comments the agreement \\ foreign response & Artsakh's status \\ political turmoil continues \\ more...

Your 15-minute Thursday report in 3946 words.

Pashinyan' message about past, present, and future

Armenia is living in extremely difficult days. There is sorrow in the hearts of all of us, tears in our eyes, and pain in the souls. The agreement to end the war, signed on November 10, caused public despair and raised many questions, to which I am expected to answer.
Why was such an unfavorable document signed? It happened in the conditions when the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia was reporting that the war should be stopped ASAP, and the Artsakh President was warning that if the hostilities continued, we could lose Stepanakert in days, in some scenarios, even in hours.
Some of you might say that if we already lost Hadrut, Shushi, we could have lost Stepanakert and not much would have changed. The reality is a little different, because if Stepanakert was lost, which, as Artsakh President Arayik Harutyunyan had already publicly confirmed would happen, then Askeran and Martakert would inevitably be lost.
In the beginning, these regions were located in the rear, quite far from the front lines, and did not have defensive structures and fortifications, and there were not enough fighting forces that could defend these areas.
This would lead to our 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7th defense zones being encircled, along with 20,000 soldiers who would either die or become POWs. Kalbajar and Qashatagh would also fall. There would be a total loss.
The most important function of the commander is to set tasks for the soldier, with a specific tactical or strategic goal. The commander sets these tasks often realizing that their implementation can lead to the death of soldiers. Being de-facto the Commander-in-Chief, I have set such tasks for the army.
But when a situation arises when a soldier can not in any way influence the further course of events, it is no longer the soldier who must die for the sake of the homeland, but the homeland must make sacrifices for the sake of the soldier.
With this in mind, I signed the infamous document. I realized that the probability of me being killed for signing it is very high but the lives of 25,000 soldiers were more important. The encircled soldiers would not have had enough force to make a breakthrough.
The decision had to be made within hours. We had no days and weeks.
Some of you are wondering why I didn't resign instead of signing it. Because that would be desertion on my part. That would mean shifting all the burden on someone else's shoulders, and today you would be calling me a hero and someone else a traitor. Also, the decision had to be made within hours.
The next question is why I didn't consult with the public before signing it. It's simple. I would have to give you the honest details and reveal all our weaknesses, while the battles continued, while the enemy was watching. That would have given them valuable info on how to encircle our troops.
Also, I promised to discuss with the public the options for the settlement of the Karabakh issue. This document does not completely end the conflict, but only a cessation of hostilities. The Karabakh issue was not resolved and is not resolved, and in this regard, there is still work to be done.
Why couldn't we prevent the war, or stop it at the initial phase, if the outcome was going to be similar? Because that would mean giving away 7 regions, including Shushi, without a fight. The second reason is we believed that by involving new military resources and hard work, we could make a breakthrough.
This is why Artsakh President and I had been making speeches with calls to enlist in the army. We had to do this in a way not to spread panic and demoralize our front line soldiers and without revealing our weaknesses to the enemy.
Everyone has done everything possible to save every inch. Our soldiers fought heroically. They fought to win and not give up. They fought against 3 armies.
Unfortunately, as Artsakh president said yesterday, we didn't help the army sufficiently. Volunteer and mobilized troops, of course with many heroic episodes, did not end up being strong enough to solve the problem. There was no other solution.
The agreement is bad for us but there is no need to make it worse. I've seen rumors about giving away Armenia's Meghri region, which is absolute nonsense. It's only about removing the transport blockade on Nakhijevan (Azerb.)
That also means we can connect Yerevan to Syunik province through Nakhijevan. We will be able to connect to Iran via railway, which will have a significant positive impact on our economy. [BTW, Turkey has already announced willingness to build a railway through Armenia to connect to Azerbaijan, so this idea looks serious.]
As for the part of Karabakh that will remain under Armenian control, we can connect to it via the Lachin corridor, including in the area near Shushi. Peacekeepers will also guarantee civilians security. It's important for refugees to return to their homes now. The government of Armenia and Artsakh will do everything to quickly recover the damage.
The issue of the final settlement of the Karabakh and the status of Artsakh is of fundamental importance. Artsakh's recognition is becoming an absolute priority and, in fact, there are more weighty arguments for the international recognition of Artsakh.
Within Armenia, we must have a stable environment. At this moment, we must ensure, first of all, that the people fully master their inalienable right to form a government, to have power. The government will not tolerate the violent provocations by the groups sponsored by the former regime. Many organizers are already under arrest. Others are in hiding.
I call on all our compatriots not to give in to provocations, and to unite around the government that is determined to help bring the country out of this situation, while guaranteeing that no one will seize power to plunder and return the country to a whirlpool of corruption.
We are reaping the bitter fruits of that robbery and corruption today. When for decades, the country's wealth had flowed into the pockets of familiar people and not to the development of the army.
Dear people, our country has a future, and we must do everything we can to make this cruel ordeal of ours an important cornerstone of that future. We as a nation will learn from the mistakes we have made.
Many will ask if we can talk about a good future after this brutal war. Yes, because there are some countries in the world today that have undergone the most brutal capitulations of the 20th century, but today are among the most powerful countries in the world.
They developed with an emphasis on education, science, industry, and democracy, and this should be our next step. And I urge all of us to focus on what we can do to strengthen our country. This will be our best service to the memory of our martyrs, our wounded and disabled servicemen and their families.
Of course, the families of the victims have to ask us a question: why did their relatives die in the end? The answer to this question is one: to save the people of Artsakh from genocide, to protect the right of the Armenian people to live. Our homage to them is the daily creative work and education that should improve our country.
Long live Freedom, Long live the Republic of Armenia, Long live the Republic of Artsakh. And long live our children who will live in a Free and Happy Armenia. I bow to our martyrs.
Video: https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034658.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612956.html

few things from earlier

Artsakh president explained yesterday that, at some point, desertion became a big issue due to low morale among non-regular troops (volunteers, reservists, etc.) and commanders leaving their positions.
A Facebook user Arbak Akopian uploaded a video showing desertion by at least 150 soldiers. Date and location unclear. Their commander allegedly ordered them to leave.
The uploader, without evidence, claims that it's the incident when someone approached the troops and told them "the whole war was a conspiracy and Pashinyan was just giving away the lands, go home."
There was such an incident that led to one person (allegedly a friend of Vitaliy Balasanyan) being arrested. No evidence this video is related to that arrest. There are reports of low morale in the south and northern fronts. It has been reported by MoD that the battles were very heavy.
https://www.facebook.com/arbakakopyan/videos/3914220051939617/?sfnsn=wa
Chief of General Staff of Army Onik Gasparyan: PM Pashinyan signed the agreement upon my proposal after a comprehensive evaluation of the situation. The Agreement was urgently needed.
https://t.me/bagramyan26/23322
Video: Armenian soldiers and ANNA reporter providing medical aid to two Azeri captured soldiers after the ceasefire:
https://youtu.be/gKyywj_0Kwg?t=40
Video: Interview with the members of SOAD. They collected $600,000 during the charity event:
https://youtu.be/DJ3guWqDbnY
A French doctor has confirmed that an Armenian soldier suffered from burns caused by a phosphorus weapon. This is the first instance of an independent party verifying that Azerbaijan used this weapon against soldiers.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034628.html

peacekeepers & troops in Artsakh

Russian peacekeepers will use Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters besides surveillance drones to monitor the activities. They were flown to Armenia with a cargo jet yesterday.
414 soldiers have been stationed so far, out of 2k. More have arrived in Armenia's Goris city for future deployment. The first troops arrived in Stepanakert today.
The troop rotation will happen at least twice a year. "They have peacekeeping experience in Syria and elsewhere."
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034643.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612891.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612972.html
"We are in the north-eastern border. The 'Yerevan' and 'Red Berets 5165' detachments continue to stand in their positions," wrote Yerevan mayor Marutyan. The troops are waiting for peacekeepers before a withdrawal.
https://factor.am/308469.html

about the Russian helicopter shot by Azerbaijan

Azeri official: In war, as in war, anything can happen. (պատերազմում, ինչպես պատերազմում, ամեն ինչ կարող է պատահել)
Russian MFA: That's a big mistake. If we adhered to that principle, our response would have been crushing. We hope Azerbaijan won't allow itself similar ambiguous statements regarding this tragic incident anymore. Russia has accepted Azerbaijan's apology and confession. We expect a speedy investigation.
https://news.am/arm/news/613071.html

the political turmoil continues

00:35 ruling QP party about calls to cancel the Agreement: The war began due to geopolitical events, which led to the collapse of several ceasefire deals. Accepting the Agreement was the only solution to save the rest of Artsakh and thousands of lives.
The public should receive the answers to their questions, but we won't join the committee suggested by the opposition parties because that would endanger lives on front lines.
Before we discuss the topic of the legality of this Agreement, we demand that the opposition parties publicly announce that they:
1) Support the cancellation of Russian mediation.
2) Support the withdrawal of Russian peacekeepers.
3) Support the resumption of war.
After they publicly state this, the opposition must then present their ideas on how to win the war upon its resumption.
https://news.am/arm/news/612858.html
"We have nothing else to lose. We will continue this struggle until we can shed a light of hope in this darkness," said an opposition ARF member.
"We are not against peacekeepers. We come to find a way out of this situation," said another ARF member.
Other opposition parties also criticized QP's message, saying "the party is deepening the crisis by refusing to use constitutional methods [Parliamentary session to revoke Agreement] to resolve the crisis."
https://factor.am/308451.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612960.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612957.html
1:06: ARF and other allies of the former govt have urged the law enforcement to release the members who were arrested yesterday. The police had warned against organizing demonstrations during Martial Law.
Among the detained are BHK Tsarukyan, Garnik Isaghulyan, Gegham Manukyan, Davit Hambardzumyan, Arthur Vanetsyan, Edward Shawarmazanov, Ishkhan Saghatelyan, and few others.
They are told not to leave the country as part of the ongoing investigation. [meaning at least some of them will be released for now]
A new demonstration will be held today at 5 pm. The opposition believes the internet will be shut down today to stop them [later update: there were no reports of internet shutoffs].
https://factor.am/308441.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612862.html , https://factor.am/308477.html
10:09: RAK Ramkavar party once again call for the "society to avoid serious political upheavals, to refrain from unconstitutional actions, and emotional decisions."
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034642.html
10:53: traffic jam was formed coming from Ejmiatsin and Abovyan. The police installed roadblocks on the highway with Yerevan. The opposition says it's done to suppress demonstrations.
Yesterday the police began checking vehicles to ensure weapons weren't being smuggled by those returning from Artsakh.
https://youtu.be/MVSn7vyKCKs?t=5 , https://news.am/arm/news/612932.html
11:17 MoD: the rumors of a Turkish drone flying over Yerevan yesterday were false...
Armenian and Russian air bases have closed the air for all flights except military and pre-approved Civil Aviation.
https://news.am/arm/news/612915.html
11:43 "The ruling QP party should take steps towards civic solidarity. They should appear in Parliament and take part in sessions. Right now de-facto we don't have a government," said LHK leader Marukyan. Another MP called for Pashinyan's resignation.
https://news.am/arm/news/612920.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612906.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612993.html
11:45: Artsakh's Justice Minister, from an opposition party, has resigned. The head of the Security Office followed the suit. Two other officials resigned later.
https://news.am/arm/news/612922.html ,
11:50: President Sarkissian separately met PM Pashinyan and members of various political parties.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034649.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612984.html
12:54: opposition BHK MP has called for law enforcement bodies to disobey the govt orders. She claims the ruling party members are arming themselves and that weapons were distributed yesterday.
https://news.am/arm/news/612940.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612936.html
14:54: over a dozen people were arrested over rioting and breaking into the govt building on Tuesday. Three more arrested today over burglarizing PM's residence that day.
https://news.am/arm/news/612974.html
15:59: ARF party believes that since the transport link connecting Nakhijevan to Azerbaijan goes through Armenia, that means it needs approval by the Parliament and the Constitutional Court.
The Constitutional Court says they'll discuss issues only if someone initiates a proper legal process to submit a dispute.
https://news.am/arm/news/612991.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612969.html
16:12: a ruling QP MP threatened to retaliate "if the [former regime allies] appear in front of my house and threaten my family again. You're lucky I wasn't home."
https://news.am/arm/news/612998.html
17:00: Prime Minister's office staff will return to work tomorrow.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034682.html
17:18: now-former acting chief of NSS Mikael Hambardzumyan, who resigned a few days ago, has urged Pashinyan to go easy on opposition members and not arrest them despite the Martial Law violations, reminding him about an internal agreement they earlier had about going easy on the opposition.
The ex-NSS chief urged the opposition to calm down, saying he knows Pashinyan and the position he was in, and that "he is an honest and patriotic person, and so is his family, and so are the people protesting on the streets."
He called for new elections that will decide whether the public agrees with Pashinyan or not.
https://news.am/arm/news/613010.html
17:30: the police found large quantities of weapons brought from Artsakh while searching vehicles on roadblocks installed in various cities.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034684.html , https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034709.html
18:07: the opposition parties and demonstrators are holding a rally. They marched between different buildings with different demands.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034695.html
18:15: First president LTP spoke with Russian ambassador Kopirnik.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034696.html
18:18: PM Pashinyan met his QP party colleagues to discuss the events before, during, and after the war.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034698.html
19:49: Army spokesman Artsrun Huvhannisyan was having blood pressure issues on November 9th and skipped the usual 22:00 briefing. It turns out he resigned the same day.
"I was tasked with doing my part of the war, in the information field. Professional researchers will study my performance over time. No one is perfect. The information I gave to the public came from the Armenian and Artsakh armies.
Yes, I was confident that we would win, also based on the warfare led by many of my military friends. I left the position on November 9th. I will continue to work in the scientific field."
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034702.html
20:04: Opposition parties have ended their rally. 20 participants were detained. They'll gather again tomorrow.
2 anti-opposition activists were detained for confronting the opposition officials during the demonstration.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034703.html , https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034705.html , https://factor.am/308854.html
20:57: opposition Arthur Vanetsyan was released from detention. He was arrested earlier for organizing a rally during the ongoing Martial/Emergency Law. He is among those who are told not to leave Armenia.
Opposition Ishkhan Saghatelyan was also released, per court ruling.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034706.html , https://news.am/arm/news/613085.html
21:39 wounded QP MP Sasun: over 3,500 of my Yerkrapah colleagues defended the borders. Unfortunately, we have 69 deaths, 79 wounded, 2 missing, 1 POW. I bow to their mothers and thank them for raising brave men.
We are still in a war. Internal provocations will increase our losses.
I ask Artsakh residents to return to their homes and continue to build it. We have never and will never abandon our Artsakh.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034711.html

Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov's comments about the agreement and past negotiations

The current phase of the conflict began after, for a long period, negative and emotional statements were accumulated. It would have been better if the conflict was resolved a lot sooner based on OCSE Minks Group principles.
If we went with that OCSE suggestion, that would still return 7 regions to Azerbaijan, but it would be done without shedding blood and it would be a final political solution.
At one point in the past, both sides had agreed with the measures that would establish physical safety, but more recently, the safety was questioned. There were complaints that the measures would not establish enough safety if 7 regions were returned to Azerbaijan. Both sides began making emotional and aggressive statements. Clashes began on the borders.
Karabakh's Status depends on the steps we are yet to take to restore the ethno-confessional agreement, as it was years before the 1990s war. The Status will be clarified only after it's clear what rights will past/current populations have. For now, we need to rebuild trust and inter-ethnic peace. We need to rebuild the churches and mosques and allow residents to live peacefully.
We see the demonstrations in Yerevan. We see how the opposition is trying to speculate on this situation. Undoubtedly, there are sincere people for whom it is insulting that everything ended at this stage.
It was illusions that the 7 regions of Karabakh should have remained for centuries in that state. Responsible [Armenian] governments should have explained to the public that, at some stage, the conflict was supposed to be resolved based on the documents that were on the table. These documents pave the way for security for Armenians living in Artsakh.
Of course, the removal of the transport and economic blockade on Armenia will positively affect Armenia's development. It suffered more from the blockade than its neighbors did.
This agreement restores those communication channels. The economy should get a breath of fresh air. There should be transport communication with Armenia's partners.
I'm confident that if we all follow the agreement, everyone will come out in a favorable position.
Yesterday Vladimir Putin spoke with PM Pashinyan and today with MFA Mnatsakanyan. I'm sure the Armenian govt understands the responsibility and will respect the signature in the interest of its people.
In any case, I see many political forces in Armenia who understand what is happening and draw the right conclusions from it.
There won't be Turkish peacekeepers in Karabakh. The Turkish-Russian joint monitoring center will be away from Karabakh and work remotely. They'll monitor to make sure neither side violates the ceasefire.
https://news.am/arm/news/612980.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612977.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612966.html , https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034681.html

foreign response

Vladimir Putin's spokesman Peskov: Vladimir Putin praised the constructive approach of Tayyip Erdogan, which will resolve the disagreements. Initially, we had disagreements over the peaceful settlement of this conflict but our cooperation showed effectiveness in solving various regional problems.
https://news.am/arm/news/612953.html
US Congressman Bred Sherman: Russian-Turkish conditions aimed at ending Azerbaijan's aggression against Artsakh and Armenia are unfair. The inaction of the Trump administration has led to catastrophic consequences for the people of Armenia.
Who made this ceasefire agreement? None other than Putin and Erdogan. This is the result of the absence of US leadership. We must not stand by this catastrophic deal that has been imposed on Armenia. We should not consider it a final settlement.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034644.html
MFA of Canada: We are working with international partners to study the terms and consequences of this agreement. We continue to support the Armenian people, with whom we have strong human ties.
We expect Azerbaijan to respect its commitments and permanently end hostilities. Turkey must refrain from participating in the conflict. All parties must negotiate a lasting and peaceful agreement within the framework of the OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chairs.
https://news.am/arm/news/612917.html
Hadrut is one of the southern cities in Artsakh captured by Azerbaijan. Hadrut refugees gathered in front of the French embassy and asked for action, reminding that France had acknowledged the presence of terrorists brought by Azerbaijan.
French embassy welcomed the gatherers, accepted their letter, and said "Our priority is to support the people who have suffered as a result of this conflict. We will take into account what French President Macron said yesterday about defending Armenia's interests."
The refugees then went to the U.S. embassy and handed over a letter that calls for the U.S. to "de-occupy Hadrut from terrorists". They'll meet ambassador Lynne Tracey.
They also went to the Russian embassy with a similar message.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034665.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612970.html , https://news.am/arm/news/612945.html
French MP Valerie Boyer criticized the govt and accused it of being too passive throughout the war.
https://news.am/arm/news/612995.html
US Representative Frank Pallone: The International Community must finally recognize the right to self-determination for the people of Artsakh and their role as negotiators. Without that, they will continue to face future assaults by Azeri and Turkish forces without any option of formal redress.
Any future negotiated settlement supported by the U.S. must ensure the people of Artsakh can reconstruct their communities and rebuild their lives without fear of further bloodshed. The terms laid out in the current ceasefire are untenable for Artsakh's long-term security.
The ceasefire signed earlier this week regarding Nagorno Karabakh isn't a long-term peace settlement. There are many critical issues that must be resolved before this conflict can come to a lasting resolution. @StateDept must immediately reengage with @OSCE to address them.
https://twitter.com/FrankPallone/status/1326671592018104320
https://news.am/arm/news/612909.html
German BILD article: We have watched this war happen – and stood idly by
https://m.bild.de/politik/international/bild-international/paul-ronzheimer-about-karabakh-we-have-watched-this-war-happen-73872944,view=amp.bildMobile.html?__twitter_impression=true

COVID stats:

+4583 tested. +2132 infected. +1794 healed. +32 deaths. 40452 active. 453033 tested.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034648.html

schools to resume

Education Ministry: studies show that COVID has significant negative effects on education. It leads not only to irreversible gaps in the development of children but also reduces their social protection.
University/college students will take online classes only, except for hands-on classes.
Some of 5-12 graders will attend physically, others do it online.
Preschoolers, 1-4 graders, and Arts students will attend school, because online classes create some difficulties with efficiency.
https://armenpress.am/arm/news/1034655.html

You can help Artsakh & Armenia

www.1000plus.am (soldiers' medical help)
www.HimnaDram.org (for Artsakh & Armenia)
www.ArmeniaFund.org (U.S. tax-deductible)
 
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